Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,620
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Plan B …

    There is little evidence that the US had a Plan B. There should have been a sophisticated analysis of potential blow-backs, side-effects, boomerangs, and possible outright failures of Plan A. Something similar to an Environmental Impact Statement should have been prepared. A “Conflict Impact Statement” would have analyzed alternatives to the proposed action, as well as the potential side-effects of each alternative. It is unclear whether anything like this was produced. However, it is unlikely that many American politicians, steeped in exceptionalism and hubris, would have considered a backup plan necessary or desirable.

    UNITED STATES PLAN B - A Son of the New American Revolution
     
  2. homer

    homer GC Hall of Fame

    2,585
    800
    2,078
    Nov 2, 2015
  3. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,620
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Western Values - crimes of conscience hangings.
     
  4. Gatorhead

    Gatorhead GC Hall of Fame

    17,415
    5,636
    3,313
    Apr 3, 2007
    Philadelphia

    Keep telling you folks, he a russian bot..........
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  5. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    8,471
    1,045
    328
    Sep 11, 2022


    Looks like the Russian offensive towards Kharkiv has begun. Ukraine has ordered evacuations in towns just east of Kharkiv. Ukrainian infantry groups have mostly retreated west across the bank of the Oskil river in anticipation of Russian takeover. IMO, this is a major development as Kharkiv is vulnerable and would be a significant loss for Ukraine if Russia is able to re-take it. Up until now, Ukraine have reinforced this area to the east of Kharkiv, but having spent so many resources and losing them, they're reluctant to reinforce further. Frankly, I think Kharkiv is more important than cutting off the land bridge. Russia is well entrenched in Crimea. Losing Kharkiv would be a major setback.
     
  6. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,298
    1,841
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    The optics for Russia in this war keep getting worse and worse.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,620
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    ^ The sum and substance of his critical capacities.
     
  8. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,620
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Belief in unicorns growing and growing.
     
  9. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    10,721
    2,415
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    Anyone think this war will end before page 2,000? 1,000 is right around the corner.
     
  10. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,298
    1,841
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    I can't believe that.
     
  11. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,620
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    I surmise that if any one nation is prepared to strap in interminably, it’s Russia.
     
  12. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

    10,850
    1,849
    3,128
    Jan 5, 2010
    Maine
    Id say @PITBOSS should get to set the O/U
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  13. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,808
    11,888
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    Did they produce key components for the cruise missiles being used by russia? Target the weakest, most critical link.
     
  14. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,808
    11,888
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    French missiles now in play. These targeted, longer range precision strikes on ligistics and control centers are going to ramp up. Give them atacms to add to the matris and crimea will be cut off to everything but a boat or a mule. This should have happened before any attempted offense but the west held the tech back. And Biden continues to hold it with "military sources" saying that inventory is limited and not enough to share. Not buying it
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  15. AndyGator

    AndyGator VIP Member

    3,551
    346
    338
    Apr 10, 2007
    posting
     
  16. AndyGator

    AndyGator VIP Member

    3,551
    346
    338
    Apr 10, 2007
    until
     
  17. AndyGator

    AndyGator VIP Member

    3,551
    346
    338
    Apr 10, 2007
    I
     
  18. AndyGator

    AndyGator VIP Member

    3,551
    346
    338
    Apr 10, 2007
    make
     
  19. AndyGator

    AndyGator VIP Member

    3,551
    346
    338
    Apr 10, 2007
    page