Conference Expansion

ACC expansion: SMU emerges as potential target along with Stanford, Cal from Pac-12, per reports

 

Playing all girl schools.

 

They may be trying to (they think it would work) entice ND to join the ACC.

 

Kind of stupid --- they wait until the pac 10 falls apart, then go after the teams that are left over. Very bad decisions financially. People on the east coast don't care about Stanford and Cal and people on the West Coast could care less about watching boston college wake, Syracuse duke and nc State play football. That league has been reactionary vs taking initiative.
Their basketball brand got ruined by expansion and losing Maryland, and expansion did little to help football as well. Miami has been terrible since joining the league and Va Tech is no better than NC State.

 

Maybe the ACC is playing 4D chess but it looks like they are the blind leading the blind.
No wonder FSU wants to leave so badly.

 

What choice do they have? The Big-12 and ACC just can't offer what the SEC and Big-10 can. And who else is available? The last time they expanded, just to add Notre Dame (for non-football), the best they could find was BC, Syracuse and Louisville. But they had to grow just to try keep up. In the end, those moves made them a weaker conference. They've never recovered.

ACC is now very clearly a second tier conference. I think the Big-12 might be stronger. I believe that's the real reason FSU wants out so desperately. Sure the money is a really big deal but Clemson and FSU are at risk of becoming mostly irrelevant on the national scene.

 

As long as they have an automatic playoff berth, they are relevant and it shouldn't be too hard to win that weak league.

 

More aptly describe without skulduggery as entertainment network exclusion.

 

Big picture- this all started when we got Okie and Tx. I supported it, two major brands in our footprint (we already had aTm and Mizzou). Then, when the BIG went out west with USC/UCLA, it seemed like desperation to "one up" those assholes in the SEC. With all the changes lately to the PAC, the BIG and Big 12 look like they are in panic mode with PAC 12 taking the fall. I prefer the way the SEC commissioner is doing it. Seems more deliberate, measured responses and evaluation on what make sense for the league.

Football aside, I feel bad for all the athletes in the non-revenue sports in the BIG that are going to have travel for their meets.

 

ACC presidents discuss possibility of adding Stanford and California, but expansion plans stall, per reports

Maybe Wofford will finally get the call now..

 

The real reason is the financial gap. Recruiting is a zero sum game, and UF, Bama, UGA, Auburn, LSU, Texas, etc all getting a $30-50 million per year financial advantage will catch up eventually. Money buys players, but it also buys coaches. If Norvell turns out to be the next great coach at FSU, which the jury is still out on that one, then he might have some suitors that can provide him a better competitive situation. Eventually, money and resources will catch up with you. It is why G5 schools cannot compete with P5 schools.

 

Arizona already lost its baseball coach, Jay Johnson, to LSU, who with SEC money versus PAC money, doubled JJ's salary. Arizona in the BIG12 will be getting $32 million a year starting in 2024. But starting in 2024, all B1G schools minus Oregon and Washington, and all SEC schools will be getting more than $55 million. Any SEC or B1G school offering double what Arizona can pay for a coach will not be uncommon. And there's little Arizona can do about it unless we find an Uncle Phil like Oregon has with Nike.

Money has already killed the PAC, and we now have only 4 Power Conferences. A continued pay gap between the B1G and SEC, and the BIG12 and ACC will mean there will one day, soon, be only a Power 2.

 

Is he implying that we should give these athletes profits from the sports revenue that universities generate and... disperse them out more "equably" to all the student athletes? Or did he simply rant about something without giving an opinion on a possible solution to it? Not that I would want these student athletes profit sharing... and becoming employees or anything remotely like that. That is NOT the answer here.

Baseball is all in on NIL... I suspect that softball is and other sports too.

With regard to the bigger schools angle compared to the smaller schools and their limited funding. Big schools have spend over a billion dollars on their sports throughout that time, in some cases in over a hundred years of sports, and that time energy and funding has it's privileges...You get what you pay for and smaller schools have to find way to re-invest in their sports programs and should NOT be giving any sort of welfare or profit sharing from the bigger schools not from the NCAA. Not that profit sharing was intimated, but smaller schools have always been at a slight disadvantage when it comes to getting and signing the best overall student athletes and how to pay for their education and room/board. Collage sports is a business and most big schools found out about this decades ago.

I do feel badly for the student athletes in non revenue generating sports not just in smaller school but in all schools. I hope the schools find generous donors in the NIL realm to help fund their needs too. Maybe the conferences should band together to help their member schools in their own conferences?

 

Did you see the breakdown comparison of the conference TV revenue deals? That should make you angry.

 

Or do we "need" cupcakes becasue Vandy, USCe et al need to find 6 wins to make a bowl game?

 

As I have been saying, College Football will be revamped to mimic the NFL. Say GOODBYE to Conferences and say hello to NFL Light:
It's not just my opinion: (Brought to you courtesy of the NCAA Money Pigs):

Where does realignment go from here?
Story by Matt Rejc • 59m
SB Nation

The landscape of college football continues to change so much now that most are having trouble keeping up with it, or rather they’re just fed up with the money-hungry universities trying to keep with each other. The recent conference realignment between the Pac-12 and the Big Ten, along with other shifts over the last couple weeks, has ignited debates about the future of the sport. With college football serving as a primary revenue source for athletic departments, it’s time to consider a bold and transformative step: the creation of a unified league, guided and governed under a single authority, independent of traditional conferences.

 

"it’s time to consider a bold and transformative step: the creation of a unified league, guided and governed under a single authority, independent of traditional conferences"

I love the SEC traditions and history. However, the landscape of College Football has drastically in the past 100 years. Failure to move forward (transformative step), could leave all of us living in the past and not enjoying the future can/will bring.

 

More changes are definitely on the way.

Playoff composition, revenue sharing, NCAA influence up for grabs as college football's power structure shifts