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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. chemgator

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    Russia adds environmental catastrophe to its list of war crimes. Russia, seeing the inevitable defeat of their armed forces, has decided to dump Russia's garbage in Ukraine.

    Russia plans to dump its rubbish on Ukraine's temporarily occupied territories

    Sadly, this might be the most civilized thing that the Russian barbarians have done in this war.
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    Bingo! You’re an outlier win your incandescent rage towards things Russian and Chinese.

    Also: your fallacy may be Ad Hominem.
     
  3. duggers_dad

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    Just a reminder that British media may be the worst in the world.
     
  4. vaxcardinal

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    I guess the optics on this doesnt look good
     
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  5. l_boy

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    They were Soviet era tanks per the article. I don’t know if they had other more recent ones elsewhere.
     
  6. ursidman

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    I think you are right but I think the help might be limited to intelligence and assistance from satellites while operation was ongoing.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    No, Russians aren’t minimizing the explosion. Just a reminder that if your enemy has the means, any means at all, you’re bound to take some hits …

     
  8. duggers_dad

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  9. chemgator

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    Looks like Ukraine will be getting another 50 Leopard I tanks, courtesy of Belgium, with restoration by Rheinmetall.

    Germany buys dozens of obsolete tanks to refurbish and send to Ukraine

     
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  10. chemgator

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    Another tragedy for Russia: Ukraine blows up yet ANOTHER Russian command post, this one in Kherson Oblast. I'm almost ready to start feeling bad for Russian generals and their short, insect-like life spans. Almost.

    Ukrainian army hits Russian command post in occupied Nova Kakhovka

     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    No off-ramp …

     
  12. ajoseph

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    Right?! Crazy to think that a country that declared war on us would attack us. Crazy to think that a country that subjugated those it invaded would do so to the US. How do people get those thoughts???
     
  13. ajoseph

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    Oh!!! Your source is time travel. It all makes sense now.
     
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  14. ajoseph

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    Here’s a secret — thankfully, you didn’t represent the views of most Americans.
     
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  15. duggers_dad

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    Beats me. Even if they could have amassed the tens of millions of troops it would taken to subjugate the U.S., Germany didn’t have the ships to get then there. Neither did it have long range bombers. Hell, even at the height of its military power it didn’t even have the wherewithal to invade Britain across the English Channel. WWII US was just another case study of how easy it is to incite an entire population into a frenzy over a fabricated (invading and subjugating the U.S.) bogeyman.
     
  16. ajoseph

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    This is simply misinformed on almost every level. The very fact that you even write the words that Nazi Germany was a “fabricated bogeyman” speaks to the complete loss of objectivity and reality that imbibes all of your posts. I can spend the time explaining why the threat of Nazi Germany during the War, but it is so universally known, so embedded in history, so embedded with actual fact, that there is no need.

    But I trust those who read this will read your view of the Russian beneficence is the same vein.

    Your comments about Russia not having the wherewithal to cross the English Channel are historically inaccurate. They had the means, they did not have the desire. They stupidly chose to turn and open (what appeared to them to be militarily unobstructed) Russian front. (Your Russians are now facing the same miscalculation.)
     
  17. duggers_dad

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    Calling your bluff. Explain how Naziism posed a dire threat to the world even to the invasion and subjugation of America. I’m going to go ahead and declare that it speaks volumes about you that you can do little more than huff and puff.
     
  18. ajoseph

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    No. As I EXPLICITLY said above, it was unnecessary for me to do so. It is that widely known. I have better time-wasting things to do than to engage in an absurd discussion with an unbalanced poster.
     
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  19. AndyGator

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    Didn't, don't and never will. ;)
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    Yes, the spectacular fable of Hitler taking over the world is believed by many, including yourself.