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Why is the GOP rallying around Trump?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by BigCypressGator1981, Aug 6, 2023.

  1. rtgator

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    "A lot of us didn't care for the mean tweets either but as long as he fought for the American people we didn't care about the mean tweets."

    But, the truth is Trump has done NOTHING constructive for the American people. Absolutely NOTHING. He feeds them anger, hate and LIES (thousands of them). That's it.

    He didn't push through any noteworthy legislation that benefitted most Americans, even when he controlled both houses of Congress. He serves NO ONE but himself and the super-rich. That's why his only legislative "accomplishment" was tax cuts for himself and the super-rich.
     
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  2. danmanne65

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    I thought about responding to this but I think this is a troll poster returning under a new name. Engaging them is a losing battle. The only winning strategy is not to play.
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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  4. flgator2

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    He never had a chance
     
  5. VAg8r1

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    And the examples are presidents who have violated or have been alleged to have violated the law based on credible evidence. It would have been even more accurate if the title of the article read "In Democracies presidents are not above the law".
     
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  6. Gatorhead

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    Tilly, first, I thank you for your courageous post.

    Second, as a man in his last quarter of life, the events of 2016 going forward have been and continue to be a shock to the system.

    Let me address a concern as it relates to Too Hot.

    92 just posted he was taking a break from posting. Possibly even permanently.

    I don't know if anyone follows me, but I have had similar feelings to 92.

    I don't think it's completely off to say that, somewhat generally speaking, there are 2 sets of posters that may be loosely defined as liberal and conservative here.

    Each side posts their "reason de etra" on whatever topic, usually tit for tat.

    That's fine and well, and is somewhat satisfying, I mean it's a message board.

    But look what a relatively new poster just posted. That person just stated that if say, China, invaded a liberal state such as California, he would not care and "they can have it".

    I call that shocking. My point is, isn't it better to find common ground and make the American Experience work?

    Dissolution of the Union and/or civil war is an incredibly short sighted solution. A horrible solution.

    Does either side really think life would be better to dissolve the Union?

    Speaking for myself, I think not.

    Ad a student of history, I am well aware of what such disastrous conclusions lead to.

    The other side of that coin is that the US has fought many conflicts and shed much blood to offer its citizens relative safety and economic prosperity.

    There were 650,000 Graves dug, countless injuries and huge infrastructure destroyed at the conclusion of the Civil War, not to mention the sacrifices that have been made to position the USA where it currently is geo-politically.

    I can only make a plea to my fellow citizens on this board that we have something pretty damn good in this country, and to destroy it over partisanship in lieu of cooperation would be the greatest tragedy in human history. (IMO).
     
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  7. gator95

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    Agree for the most part. I'm more independent than conservative anymore. Trump is a everything you said he is and more. Just a complete non-starter for many on the right and even more in the middle. I think the biggest mistake the R's have made besides trump is moving too far right on abortion. It's a loser in an election and I think the compromise of somewhere between 20-24 weeks was fair for all parties. But going to 6 weeks is a bridge too far for some(me included). The polling shows that is a loser in a general election, not sure why the hard move. But back to Trump, hope he rots in jail and rots in hell.
     
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  8. tilly

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    I think the willingness to lose on the abortion issue actually validates it as a sincere position.

    I know It isnt a "winning" strategy, but that does nothing to change my belief that abortion should only exist in rare necessary instances.
     
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    Not arguing it's not a sincere position. BUT, It's not a winning strategy and will only make the other side make abortions legal for longer in dem states. I liked the compromise that was in effect for basically 50 years or so. Both sides weren't happy, that usually means the general public is satisfied.
     
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  10. tampagtr

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    Good post. He is a horrible human being personally, but his threatened and actual abuse of power is far more significant. It is amazing that some are more concerned with his marital fidelity than his abuse of law and citizens
     
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  11. AndyGator

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    No need to take a break. I started ignoring trolls, fools and Russian puppets and my enjoyment level of this board dramatically increased. I suggest you try it first, then take a temporary or permanent break.
     
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  12. danmanne65

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    Safe, legal and rare. I don’t know many who disagree with this statement v
     
  13. Tjgators

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    Most of his hand picked candidates lost? 216-19. It's impressive how the same untruth gets shared over and over even though it is over turned by facts.

    Some of those 19 were big big Senate loses. Just happened to be the states that shut down voting early in the 2020 election. Hmmm. The GOP is doing everything in their power to rid themselves of Trump, so that part is wrong as well. MAGA is coming for the GOP.
     
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  14. tilly

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    They were never rare though. 1M a year is not rare.
     
  15. danmanne65

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    Down from a high of 1.5 million. Number seems to be stabilizing at 900000 a year with more than half being chemical and not surgical. My reading says those are given at under ten weeks. Perhaps giving more access to birth control and the morning after pill is an answer to shrink things further.
     
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  16. enviroGator

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    So I'm not sure anyone has actually answered the OP's question which is a bit different than the title of the thread.

    He is asking why candidates aren't coming out and attacking him.

    For non-presidential candidates, it is because they are afraid to be primaried. Trump's base in the GOP is enough to sway any primary (sadly..). As he recently tweeted, you go after him, he will go after you. He is also trying to push existing GOP congressmen to do his bidding or be primaried.

    For presidential candidates, they have got to be hoping that Trump gets taken out due to his legal issues and that if so, they need to make sure Trump hasn't turned his base against them.
     
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    Just one question. How many of Trump's handpicked candidates won in swing states, Georgia, Pennsylvania and Arizona coming immediately to mind?
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    True, vote for lesser evil and you’re still voting foe evil. But …

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  19. tilly

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    None of that backs the claim that people really want it to be rare.

    If I told you that one out of every 360 planes crash, would you say plane crashes are rare? Because that is a similar statistical ratio.
     
  20. oderint_dum_metuant

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    No one felt the need to ask this poster to clarify?

    Another civil war enthusiast?