Will Barbie movie be tolerable?

That's actually a fair point. But I think it's also fair to say that those types of movies aren't the type with the broadest appeal.

 

I think Barbie and SOF are watered down enough to where the message is broadly agreeable and whatever politics people want to attribute to them are largely invisible, I cant think of many recent movies that actually challenge or provoke an audience

 

"When I said: 'What pisses people off is the bait-and-switch of advertising a simple action movie/Disney movie/children's movie, then shoehorning "the message" in there that feels more like a slap to the face of the audience than a nod to it.' What I really meant was: Most people don't care about this preaching. But there might be a small number of angry 'conservatives' who refuse to go to the wildly successful film."

 

An old acquaintance of mine who has a gay son is still mad at me because I won’t go see Broke Back Mountain. Think about that for a second and how long ago the movie came out. Talk about silliness.


My wife doesn’t want to see Barbie. I told her let’s wait and get it at Redbox for $1.99. I think she’ll go for that.

 

That’s an interesting post. But I’m more intrigued that you actually want to see Barbie.

 

I want to see what all the fuss is about. If there are good looking ladies then there’s that.

If I get into it and don’t like it,,,,
I’ll stop watching. NBD

 

**Spoiler Alert**


It was a mixed bag for me. I went for the satire. I thought it had some pretty funny laugh out loud moments. For me, particularly, the nod to 2001 and also the narrator comment re: Margot Robbie and being ugly. I also thought the idea of Weird Barbie to be pretty funny knowing what some of my sisters did to their Barbies. I actually didn't find Will Ferrel particularly funny and I usually do.

As for the messaging, it was also a mixed bag. I thought the Mom speech re: the expectations put on women was pretty spot on. I didn't however think that the idea of having all women or all men running the world was something to cheer about. I also noted it performed the obligatory checking of the PC boxes so as not to rankle the types that care about such things. Its like they have a PC focus group to make sure they check all the character type boxes, etc. But Barbie is the norm from that perspective.

 

That was what the movie was satirizing. You shouldn't have come away cheering it.

 

I thought the ultimate message confirmed this. By the end, the Barbies even say so. Helen Mirren’s voiceover even joked that the Kens were now legally equal, but that they only had the power of women in the real world, but would get there eventually, a nod to how power works. But they markedly said that neither side should be either the legal overclass or the underclass

 

And did you obey?

 

Amen

 

Well, folks have found excuses to argue about Barbie. That's it.

 

Been in love with Margot ever since this movie.....

 

"Corporate soulless stupid entertainment?" This is so ignorant and uninformed, I don't know where to start. Studios like A24, Focus Features, New Line Cinema, IFC Films, Lionsgate, Searchlight and a dozen others crank out brilliant low budget, high concept features every month. There are more movies being made than ever, more people writing scripts, more directors shooting those scripts or writing and shooting their own and more distribution companies backing them than ever. Best of all, they are not beholden to marketing executives telling them what kind of stories to tell.

And some of them are truly brilliant. None of the following films Everything Everywhere All at Once, The Banshees of Inisherin, Nomad Land, Marcel The Shell with Shoes On, Parasite, Moonlight, The Power of the Dog or Pig were produced to make money. They were made because they were stories that needed to be told and because some studio and/or distribution company knew how to get them in front of audiences that would pay to see them.

And that's just the US. Brilliant films are being made all over the world.

You aren't going to find these movies at your local cineplex nor are you going to hear about them from your like-minded friends. You have to look for them the same way you look for great books or great music. But you won't because it's too much trouble and it's easier to pretend that it's not worth the trouble.

 

Everything Everywhere All At Once is the only one of those I've seen and it's a steaming pile of dog s***.

 

Those two messages are not inconsistent, and I never said the latter.

My Lord you're bad at this.

 

Oppenheimer is incredibly thought-provoking, regardless of your political leanings.

 

Yeah, that is quite a gal. Wow.