Lebron James ‘i promise school’ crushing it

The Great Society was a deliberate plan to break up families and specifically black families. There might have been an uptick in people having a children out of wedlock, however, the children born in a two parent household was still at 85%. A far cry from today at 20%.

Again, I will continue to say that that a lot of the black community’s problems is a lack of two parent household in the home. These young kids specifically young boys are angry for their fathers not being in their life. Which leads to them joining gangs, being delinquent, etc.

 

For everyone, specifically the people who question me because I work with the children.

 

Black boys still lack male role models because there are lack of black fathers in the homes.

 

Nobody disputes this lack parenting is a problem, if not one of the primary problems - behind socioeconomic status.

But again, you are not offering any realistic “fix”. You state the kids are angry and joining gangs. Then go on about feminism and working mothers? The disconnect is these troubled youths aren’t the offspring of successful professional working mothers, I.e the product of so-called feminism gains. They are overwhelmingly the offspring of poor and uneducated mothers. Mothers who either may not be working or only have minimal income even if they are trying and living straight. Their fathers may themselves be gang members. The problem isn’t just the single mother or the absent father, it’s that both mother and father are poor or uneducated. For an upper class black family with one or both biological parents educated, when that family sees divorce or the mother is unmarried, a single parent household isn’t ideal just as it isn’t ideal for other racial groups, but it doesn’t send the kid to join a gang!

I’m not stating I have a grand solution, I’m simply pointing out that lamenting the lack of father figure or railing against feminism isn’t actually a solution either. Frankly, i don’t see any easy solution (perhaps it just doesn’t exist, and the only solutions are long term generational). Even if we wanted to pass laws for deadbeat fathers, I doubt even govt force could truly change this. And even if they were suddenly present, so what? If the dad is so lousy that his presence had to be “forced” is that going to be a net gain for the kid? It might be a net negative! All society can do is make sure the schooling opportunities are there and public schools aren’t discriminating on race. Hell, with this Lebron thing he created a private school to take some challenging students and theoretically open doors for them, probably put millions of his own dollars to help and it’s *STILL* not necessarily productive - at least not insofar as test scores. But I’m not going to malign Lebron’s efforts as some would, there could be other intangible benefits to what he’s doing that test scores don’t yet reflect (though as I suggested with my first post, Lebron should still evaluate where the schools shortcomings are on these math scores).

 

Black women are the most educated demographic of any ethnic group in the United States.

Also, I have provided solutions to fix the issue.

 

If Black fathers are the most involved fathers within any demographic, as you said, why don’t you consider them, as a group, to be role models to their kids? And what should we make of it if fathers of other races are more likely to live in the same house yet somehow less involved with their kids relative to Black fathers? I am just having a hard time reconciling those points. Is living under the same roof more important than personal involvement?

My parents separated when I was very young so I didn’t grow up with my dad in the house. That’s definitely not ideal and it was tough at first to be sure. But he was always very involved in my life and was a role model and my parents both made sure I took school seriously. Lots of kids are in single parent homes and doing well academically.

 

This is very simple here, when black fathers are allowed to be in their children’s lives they are the most involved. The problem is they are not allowed to be involved or not even chosen to be fathers.

 

To clarify, you are making the case that these educated black women are the problem and we should roll this back? I’m just trying to get at this “feminism is to blame” angle for inner city issues?

These stats on educational attainment are muddied, it’s not as simple as you seem to think. Black women are apparently doing well on “degree attainment”, as in who is graduating right now. But they lag behind white women in overall population of women with degrees, so there are white women and Asian women who may have gotten a leg up by getting their degrees 10,20,30 years ago. These are the professionals in the workforce earning the highest incomes and black women are still statistically disadvantaged there. They also statistically lag behind in those entering STEM fields, and even those that enter STEM fields only earn $.54 on the dollar vs. white male counterparts. So in addition to a gender wage gap, black women face a gender AND race wage gap even in professional fields. The largest gap of any professional demographic. There is plenty that society needs to improve. Still, that their educational attainment is increasing is good news and should bode relatively well for that population of women in 10 or 20 years. You can’t win the race if you don’t get to the starting grid. Do you think otherwise?

Personally, I don’t think these educated women are the driver of these inner city problems. It’s the population of uneducated women who lack skills and earning power. Obviously once an uneducated woman living near or below poverty have kids (or multiple kids) it pretty well locks them into poverty the vast majority of the time. That has nothing to do with race either, plenty of rural folks living a cycle of poverty. It’s just that cities tend to involve gangs which lure away the youth. That poverty cycle is what needs to be broken (along with gangs and drugs, which I assume overlaps more often than not, esp in urban environs).

 

Why are they not “allowed” to be involved??? Who is not “allowing” their involvement?

You are suggesting there are a bunch of really great, high wage earning black fathers, who are being forbidden from being excellent supporting fathers to their children? I’m trying to make sense if this.

 

It is very simple if you look at the numbers and research. Black men get a bad rap, however, as I stated above research shows that black men are the most involved fathers within any demographic of men.

61% of black men are in the middle class. 54% of black men are single and childless. So, the majority of black men are not making these kids and are not involved in this dilemma. 30% of black men are married with their own families. Only 14% of black men are making 80% of these fatherless children into single mother households.

So, again I ask you who is making these babies? Who is choosing to give life with these No good small minority of men? Who is choosing to break up black families?

 

Yes an uptick...which again, began prior 1965 (the upward trends in single-parent families/out of wedlock births actually started in the early 1950s for blacks and whites). To argue Great Society was the cause and that it was some deliberate plan to destroy black families isn't grounded in the intent of GS, or in data, or history.

Agree, increased single-parent homes where the father is faiap completely absent or at most marginally involved has significantly contributed to problems in poor black communities. Same is true for whites. I'd add that things get complicated here as two parents don't necessarily need to be in the home, but having the other parent involved in that child's life has significant positive effects (more actutely for male children and fathers). However, there are notable differences between socioeconomic classes where children reared in poor single-parent homes are significantly more likely to have worse outcomes compared to middle class children reared in single parent homes.

Gotta ask, why are these problems more acute in poor black communities?

 

I disagree with you about the Great Society. The statistics show you that after 1965 there was steep decline in two parent households in the black community regardless of the little uptick before it.

Because of a lack of Fathers and the black community is being run by a Matriarchy. Then the cycle continues through generations and it’s causing the black man to become weaker and weaker. Strong, independent women who don't need a man are raising boys who are dependent and don't want to be a man.

What are you doing to help unprivileged children?

 

Crack cocaine and the government's attempt to fight it destroyed the black community. The social consequences are disheartening. There was an increase in crime and violence. The government tried to fight it by locking up black males for YEARS in prison. Families were destroyed...support networks destroyed. With the higher chance of a black male being incarcerated women were force to oly both roles I the household. Trust was broken.
Also, don't forget to add the history of structural disadvantages.

With that being said I am not convinced that a household requires two parents in order to raise productive citizens. There are countries with single parent households not far off from ours and they do just fine. The ability to earn a modest income is the biggest issue in my opinion

 

You are aware people can have multiple kids, right? It’s very much a “first world” problem that successful high achieving people tend to delay having children longer, and have fewer kids, whereas poor and less educated don’t consider such things as financial readiness. Do you think that same phenomenon doesn’t exist across different racial groups? I can totally believe 14% of men and women are causing 80% of the problems and then the cycle repeats with their offspring. This is pretty much the premise of the award winning, true life documentary, Idiocracy.

No one person is “choosing” this. No political movement is encouraging it. Not feminism. Not “the Great Society”. You seem to be blaming the egg for the chicken. We could totally end all Great Society type programs for people in poverty. Then what?

 

Again, you are making my point, the point that a small number of men are creating this large number of fatherless children in single mother households. Black women are choosing to make babies with these No good men. Again, there are 33 forms of birth control before sex. So, there really isn’t any excuses for this no matter how you don’t want to but the blame on where a needs to be.

There is no community like the black community that compares to large number of single mother children, absolutely none.

 

No one forced black people to get involved with Crack cocaine. So, that too is black peoples fault. No one told black people to sell crack, no one told black people to buy and use crack, so if the consequences are to go jail or prison because you have to accept accountability of it because no one told you to do it.

 

That's not my point of saying who was forced to do something. Choices were made back then so here we are

 

Those kids need a father figure, even a big brother regardless of race.

I volunteer many hours in schools with a high % of underrepresented kids(legal hispanics and africans <from the continent.>)

These young people ages 12 and up could use adults in their schools.

It’s life changing.

Call a school, or knights of columbus or the pta for a place to start

 

It’s not where this started because the majority of black men were not involved in cocaine or crack. It’s just more excuses.