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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by KronoGator, Jul 31, 2023.

  1. 62gator

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    “The Pac-12 is now down to just four members: California, Stanford, Oregon State and Washington State. The Mountain West and AAC will both likely be interested in discussing membership with those programs, and independents remains an option for Stanford,a private institution that boasts arguably the nation's strongest athletic department.”

    Ouch!

    Arizona, Arizona State, Utah join Big 12: Programs follow Colorado departing Pac-12 before 2024 season

    Washington State, Stanford unhappy after Washington, Oregon join Pac-12 defections with move to Big Ten
     
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  2. KronoGator

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    Stanford could probably make it as a west coast Notre Dame, Osu and wsu to the mountain west, Cal to irrelevance.
     
  3. 06GATORS08

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    No way
     
  4. swampspring

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    I wonder if the gators have any interest in any top players from those remaining four looking to jump ship after their teams got left behind. Sucks for those schools because they are about to be pillaged.
     
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  5. Matthanuf06

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    IMO the Big 10 here is the big winner. The SEC should have took some of the PAC. Now there is no avenue out west and the Big 10 is the national conference
     
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  6. 06GATORS08

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    Who? Oregon? Washington? Why? Neither of those bring you southern cal metro eyeballs and it creates a logistics nightmare.
     
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  7. Matthanuf06

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    Oregon, Wash, Utah, Arizona, Az St, Colorado

    Should have got at least 4, if not all 6.

    You could have set up divisions based on geography so logistics wouldn’t have been a big deal.

    The issue is it was either do that or let the Big 10 become the national conference. Maybe we all prefer the small regional conference set up, but that just isn’t in play anymore.
     
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  8. samdingo

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    I think the issue with Stanford is that this is 99% driven by football and while they do have a proud history and some recent success they're just not Oregon or Washington though I do they're a carrot for Notre Dame potentially.

    I would not be surprised if Stanford divests either. Feels like GT has.
     
  9. Wanne15

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    Stanford is like Notre dame without the winning part? Cal has always been irrelevant.
     
  10. 96Gatorcise

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    Coaches in the remaining PAC schools are about to take a pay cut.
     
  11. Wanne15

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    Good way to pretend academics are a priority and take the teams that don’t threaten to put losses on osu and Michigan’s schedules. They look like academics are a priority when in reality they are chickenshits.
     
  12. Wanne15

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    They will find a spot. They have fans, they wins games, eyes are on the tv when they play. Are the big boys of the BIG scared of FSU….. maybe. They prefer the sissies from the west coast tgat haven’t won a ship in three decades.. at least we brought in Oklahoma and Texas. Missouri was a mistake. Now we could take Stanford and they could go in the corner with Vandy and have their glorious brain bowl championship.
     
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  13. Wanne15

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    If a team can’t win a title, they are useless. Bring winners, that’s why the sec is the top conference. Nothing else matters. Oklahoma and Texas win titles, North Carolina and Virginia are just punching bags that don’t scare Bama.
     
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  14. Wanne15

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    TCU got a shot. It’s not the end of the world to go to the 12 but money is why the ACC is lagging behind. Maybe the clowns should go independent again. They may could make a better schedule that way than going to the 12.
     
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  15. Wanne15

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    But our football players are the smartest lol.
     
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  16. Wanne15

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    I loved the all sec schedule. If we kicked out the bottom few and brought Notre Dame and Clemson in instead, I would love it. Great games every week, what’s not to love. The Phins are the only undefeated team ever as it should be. Having multiple undefeated teams every year by scheduling trash is totally weak. Earn an undefeated season if you’re that good, don’t schedule an undefeated season.
     
  17. Wanne15

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    The pac has won a ship in thirty years, the 12 won’t be all tgat much of a step down. The teams that went to the Big won the lottery but the remaining teams are not much worse off really. They still have the same fans and the same stadiums and can still get in the playoffs. If they wins games, tv will pay. It’ll work out if they can win.
     
  18. KronoGator

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    It was already too late, the big10 became the national conference when they got USC and UCLA, then they got the better TV deal with 3 separate networks while the SEC is now only on one.
     
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    Sooner or later this ends with 20-24 teams in the SEC.

    I like that the conference didn't make a play for PAC schools. Regional rivalries make football better IMO, and traveling and logistics for every sport is easier if you stay in the current geographic footprint. At this point the SEC is the only conference name that makes sense.

    Obviously Notre Dame is target one for everyone, but I don't see them ever giving up Independence. I'd actually make a scheduling deal to allow them to keep it... and keep them away from the B1G.

    Virginia, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Duke, Florida State, Clemson, GA Tech, and Louisville... You got 8 votes (9 with ND) to dissolve the ACC.

    You can still stick with a lot tradition.

    5 permanent opponents
    6 rotating opponents
    You can play everyone in the conference every 3 years.
    Leaves room for one extra game (Notre Dame, Bedlam, Miami, etc)

    Plus the basketball would reach a whole new level.
     
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  20. savannahgator5220

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    Someone said this yesterday, but the thought of USCw baseball flying to New Jersey to play Rutgers in a 3 game weekend series when they could be playing San Diego State makes no sense.
     
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