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Will Barbie movie be tolerable?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by citygator, Jul 7, 2023.

The Barbie movie will…

  1. Rule! It looks clever and hilarious

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  2. Suck! It looks cringy and intolerable

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  3. Have Margot Robbie who is blazing hot so who cares?

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  4. What is Barbie?

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  1. StrangeGator

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    More common sense theater managers standing up for what’s right


    According to her lawsuit filed in state Superior Court in Monmouth County, on June 16, Christine Gallinaro said she took her 15-year-old son, who is diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder and severe speech delays, to the Cinemark Hazlet 12 to see the movie "Elemental." During their visit, Gallinaro's son had to use the restroom.

    Because he is not able to use the restroom alone, and after realizing there was no family restroom, Gallinaro had "no choice" but to take her son into the women's restroom to use the facilities, the complaint alleges.


    As they were leaving the restroom, the theater manager approached them, shouting "blatantly discriminatory remarks," including that "he shouldn't be in here" and that a "grown" man should not be in the woman's restroom, the lawsuit said.

    Then, the manager shouted "this is not a transgender bathroom," the documents said, ordering Gallinaro and her son to leave the premises and instructing the assistant manager to call the police.


    Hazlet theater sued over bathroom ouster of teen autistic boy, mom
     
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  5. Orange_and_Bluke

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    This thread is what’s wrong with America.
    Weirdo white libbies celebrate anything non traditional no matter the consequence.
    Also…I’m sure the Barbie movie is trash. I know this because citygator likes it.
     
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  6. citygator

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  7. mrhansduck

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    I consider myself a supporter of feminism. I'm aware that time periods have been identified in waves, but I'm not clear what they mean in any practical sense. I'm even seeing now that we could be in a fourth or fifth wave. No idea what any of that means.

    To me, it's about choices. When women generally have the same rights and tools to be independent, they can make their own personal choices at the individual level. Obviously there are many women who choose to be in relationships with more traditional gender roles (e.g, a mother choosing to stay home and let the father bring in the income). That's great with me if that makes them happy. I do think there are many men today who feel they missed out on the times where women needed a man to provide basic necessities because that all but guaranteed a life partner for any man who could stay out of jail and hold down a decent job. That dependence also provided men with disproportionate power in those relationships.

    I'd hope that men don't feel that women being independent and self sufficient gives men a license to treat women poorly. I know you're not saying that at all, but I've seen men online make jokes about "equal rights and equal lefts," equating the best parts of equality with violence against women. It's almost a veiled threat or a type of pouting from some guys (again, not you) who insinuate that if women are going to have jobs and vote that they have to be willing to take punches like a man, too. That's a bizarre way of thinking.

    Personally, I think the norm of men being expected to pay for dates is probably outdated. Seems like I've read that there are feminists who have different views on it. I think I've heard some women say they pay their own way in a first date or in a bar because some guys feel entitled to sex simply because they spent a little money. And let's not lose sight of the inconsistencies or hypocrisy that exist on the other side of the equation here. There are many men who are cruising tinder for sexual hookups yet expect the woman they marry to be innocent and doting, or maybe even a virgin. Humans are often going to be inconsistent when it benefits us, but that applies to many men, too.
     
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  8. StrangeGator

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    Barbie is killing it at the box office. Pushed the new MI installment down a few notches. It’s obviously struck a nerve. Industry people are taking notice. There’s talk that the market is done with Marvel and DC properties, especially women.
     
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    “I don't think men should ever hit women…”. No duh.

    A lot of maga have vehement responses to this film. ie Shapiro posted a 45 min video of him ranting and burning Barbie dolls.

    film will most likely cross $1B in box office. There will be sequels.
     
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  10. demosthenes

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    I’d go with entertaining, not brilliant. It started off annoyingly “Barbie” but hit its stride with the first mention of death and became much more entertaining. It was inorganically preachy, but if their purpose for making the film was to knock some sense into blockheads then maybe that was what was needed. Anyway, the group of us that went thought it was an entertaining one-time watch but far from a great movie.
     
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    I went last weekend too, and feel pretty similar.

    Funny, but not hilarious.

    As a white male, I wasn't offended in the least.
     
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    Fair point.
     
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    Well you may think that's obvious, but if you think there are no differences between the sexes, you would have to explain why a man hitting a woman is uniquely wrong, as in worse than a woman hitting a man or a man hitting a man.

    I think it's uniquely wrong because I accept that the sexes are different.
     
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    Agreed, that's really a "race-to-the-bottom" way of thinking.

    I think reasonable critiques can be made of "equality of outcome" based on the physical burdens of men in work and in life, but the answer is not saying women should have to undergo those physical burdens as well. It just means we should all want to reap the consequences of our own choices for better or worse, not just have everyone end up in the same place on average... because the truth is men don't want that and women don't want that, the more they think about it.

    I believe the film makes a joke about the Barbie Construction Worker. It's funny because that's not a profession women typically want to pursue. And good for them. That's their choice. But that goes to show that economic equality is really a secondary priority to prosperity. People don't want to "make the same amount of money," what they want is to "make more money." It's really that simple.
     
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    Ethically, I think it's wrong to hit people regardless of their gender - unless it's self defense, and even then any physical force used at all should be reasonable. At the group level, there is certainly a disparity in size and strength between men and women. That's why we have segregated sports, and that's also a key reason why it's wrong for men to hit women. They just don't typically pose the same threat to us. That said, at the individual level, if a woman MMA fighter were beating up some poor dude, I wouldn't fault him for trying to fight back either.

    To the point in your other post, men do perform a lot of physical and dangerous jobs, but the physical burden on men these days isn't near what it used to be back when men had to fight neighboring villages or tribes, or even more recently when men were more likely to build homes with their own hands or work the farms. This especially true for men in white collar jobs. Most of us simply rely upon other men (often migrants) to do the most dangerous and most physical jobs, just as women do. I don't think those of us working at desks in the AC get to take credit for those physical burdens just because we share the gender of the men doing those jobs. And I'm not saying that was necessarily your argument but just thinking out loud here.
     
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    Your so-called "crisis of masculinity" in a nutshell, a bunch of people steeped in misogyny and patriarchy made to feel feminized by foreigners coded as more traditionally masculine. Really the ur text of all the conservative panics about immigration, culture, crime, manhood etc.
     
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    And to be clear, there are, in fact, many American men who still do physically demanding and dangerous work, such as coal mining, certain types of fishing,construction, etc. They of course deserve respect and are not as numerous as a percentage of the population as they once were. But yeah, I think there's a desire for men to feel masculine, which is reflected by way of example in truck commercials targeting white collar men who never go off road and aren't pulling heavy equipment to pay $75,000 for the most rugged, durable, toughest, macho trucks. I guess one could say it's a form of virtue signaling.
     
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    That and all of the Civil War beards..
     
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    As for Barbie, I'm always down for some quality satire.
     
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    Pro fighter (male or female) fighting someone who doesn't know how to fight (male or female) will always win, especially if the pro fighter is proficient in jiu jitsu where the big selling point is that it levels the playing field for the little guy in a fight.
     
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