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Are we being pushed into another Civil War?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by UFLawyer, Jul 18, 2023.

  1. surfn1080

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    There was and guess what, not one audio, video, or first-person witness to a call of Trump asking for an investigation into Bidens for money or weapons.

    I have shared transcripts of the hearings here many times. You all memory-hole it just like MSNBC or CNN has.
     
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  2. murphree_hall

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    Ahhhh… one of history’s greatest mysteries… does a liquid actually “hit” lips?
     
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  4. murphree_hall

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    Zelenskyy asked for Javelins and Trump said right after… “I’d like you to do us a favor, though.” He then began to outline how he wanted an investigation into the Bidens.
     
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  5. murphree_hall

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    Quiet, Libbie.
     
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  6. gatorchamps960608

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    It's. In. The. Phone. Call.
     
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  7. surfn1080

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    That no one has heard or testified to!
    Dems best witness was someone who heard from a guy who heard from a guy.
     
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  8. LimeyGator

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    It's not like it wasn't on the cards...

     
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  9. mikemcd810

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    Is today the day we find out if there's going to be a Civil War due to Trump's arraignment?
     
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  10. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    maybe avoid starbucks for a day or two ..
     
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  11. rivergator

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    I think there's a huge difference between 'let's shake things up' and 'then we can take over.'
    Yes, a small group of people, whether Bin Laden's group or antifa, can cause violence and mayhem. Or are you claiming that Bin Laden, too, was hoping to take control of the US?
     
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  12. UFLawyer

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    I think I have discovered what your problem is. You don’t know what the term Civil War means. For whatever reason, you think that’s a bunch of people in blue coats, fighting against a bunch of people in gray coats. That would be incorrect. Or, you may think it’s a bunch of a bunch of people trying to overthrow a government. That would also be incorrect. Or perhaps, you think it’s the state of Florida versus the state of New York. That would also be incorrect.

    A Civil War is simply people of the same nation fighting against each other. Technically, I would also throw in there that the fighting would have to be somewhat sustained, semi organized. Most important, Civil War does not require any state action at all so the notion that F-16s are going to save the day are pretty stupid.

    I have no idea what you’re talking about regarding Bin Laden. Sounds like a great topic for another thread.
     
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  13. Orange_and_Bluke

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    It’s a typical debate tactic. They play dumb and hit you with side points. That’s more fun I guess than attempting to clarify and understand your op.
     
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  14. gatorchamps960608

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    OMG.

    The tape was all over the news when it happened. I have heard the whole thing as well as clips multiple times. Turn off OAN and quite reading Gateway Pundit and you might get exposed to these things.
     
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  15. rivergator

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    You claimed that every political organization's goal is to take control. Then you brought up Bin Laden's small group. So I asked if you thought he was trying to take control of the US.
    I hope that helps.
     
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  16. Sohogator

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    Guys the OP is a “lawyer”. He knows things. Like what a civil war is. It’s a bunch of Meal Team Six types killing baristas. Who are we to argue?

    Edit the baristas are going to wipe their ass with meal team 6. It will be over shortly but “covefe” prices are going to go up.
     
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  17. l_boy

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    Yeah I don’t know that they failed to tell the truth as much as you indicate. What they didn’t tell you was your preferred “truth”. These days “truth” has little correlation as to what is exactly true, but it is a preferred narrative and article of faith by individual.
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    Battlefield redrawn! It’s no longer Red vs. Blue. It’s the 70% of Americans who think the economy sucks vs. the 30% who think it’s okay to good.
     
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  19. l_boy

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    Agreed. The way I look at it is what changes to modify the current dynamic. People via supply and demand have clearly demonstrated that they gravitate to their preferred narrative, vs actual facts, and as long as we have a supply and demand society the market will provide what we want.

    So what could cause it to change?

    - More authoritarianism. There are clear models for this. China. Russia. Even Hungary to an extent.

    - Some change in the media landscape due to technology. Maybe the development of AI leads to a more common set of facts and people gravitate to that. I’m skeptical of that but it is plausible. It is just as plausible that we end up with multiple AIs that bend the info to your preferred narrative.

    - We just get more sophisticated. Possible but again everything we have seen makes me skeptical of this.
     
  20. UFLawyer

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    ok. Master of taking things out of context. Bin Laden was a terrorist, not a politician. And my comment about political groups was in reference to the United States. Pretty sure King Charles isn’t looking to replace the dumbass currently occupying the White House.
    Try harder next time.
     
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