Free healthcare in UK?

That is evil and disgusting. Sadly some here would be fine with it.

 

yep

 

FYI: This article is six days old.
UCHealth stands firm on denying organ transplants to patients, donors who are unvaccinated for COVID-19

Dan Weaver, UCHealth’s vice president of communications, said the decision is based on data from clinical trials and studies suggesting the “extreme risk that COVID-19 poses to transplant recipients after their surgeries.” He contrasted the current 1.6% COVID-19 mortality rate reported by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to studies reporting anywhere from 18% to 32% among for transplant recipients who contracted COVID-19.
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Edit: Although the article was originally published in October 2021, the requirement still remains in effect.

 

Yeah, I agree. The government deserves a redo. What's the worst that can happen?

 

Yeah and all those would be physicians grinding through 10 years of college will become engineers or lawyers instead. Fantastic idea! Disincentivize medicine!

 

You can still pay medical professionals the same and remove profit from healthcare. Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina made nearly $1.5 billion in profit last year alone. Many other BCBS had record years last year too.

None of that profit goes towards doctors and nurses. It's all additional healthcare costs.

 

Nobody suggested a redo. My post suggested the parties cooperate to reach a solution on a fundamental need. ButI suppose I see why “some” might find that novel thought objectionable.

 

This data is from Oct of 2020. Not sure why to even post this. There wasn't a vaccine at the time of the study. IF they wanted to do a real study, then do an RCT where some transplant recipients had the vaccine and some who didn't and then look at the mortality rate. .

 

Any time the government gets involved; things become more expensive. Look at education. Conversely, things tend to become cheaper if free market capitalism is allowed to do what it does. The reason healthcare costs have exploded is more and more government intervention over the years. Government is not a good steward of our tax dollars. Look at Social Security. Government was supposed to invest the tax receipts from social security tax, but they didn’t. They spent it on other programs. Had they actually did what they said they were going to do in the beginning, social security would be in much better shape than it is.

Asking government to fix health care costs is like asking a mortician to perform open heart surgery on you. Add to this the carve out Obamacare gave to big pharma, it is the largest cluster**** we have ever witnessed. Let the free markets compete, create a safety net for those who truly cannot afford care and let it be. It’s not going to be perfect, but it will be a helluva lot better than ceding even more government intervention and control, which always drives costs higher.

 

The only thing worse than government involvement in healthcare is a system in which major healthcare decisions are made by for profit entities.

 

Gotcha. Guess we just notch it up to an unsolvable problem, the people be damned, because Okeechobee despises government.

 

Why would anyone like government ?

 

Make no mistake, we're heading your way...

Too expensive to run/fund. Nobody wants it to be that way and it'll become a key battle ground at the next election, but it's largely inevitable that private healthcare insurance will become the norm over here eventually.

 

Do really think that an American style system will replace the NHS. It's my understanding that most Brits although they complain about the NHS want it improved rather than replaced with an American style system dependent on private insurance. Just speculation maybe more Brits are purchasing supplemental private health insurance giving them the option of going outside of the NHS while still using the governmental system.

Interesting survey with a majority expressing dissatisfaction with the NHS although at the same time the survey also indicated that "Support for the founding principles of the NHS remains as strong as ever. Most people still believe that the principles of the NHS being free at the point of delivery (90%), providing a comprehensive service (89%) and being funded through taxation (84%) should continue to apply today. But they are less sure whether these principles will remain intact in 5 years’ time."
Public perceptions of the NHS: a winter of discontent

 

I'd say that's exactly spot on.

The NHS is having a tough time but it's one of the bedrock foundations of modern Britain. A sudden change will be met with a wall of public resistance. However, for those paying attention over here, it's been systematically privatised for years now. It's beautiful but it's bloated with inefficiency.

My belief is based on the fact that most Britons aren't alert to the creeping changes which are already happening...

 

The facts are what they are. Any time government takes over anything, the costs spiral out of control. They’ve already proven it in this arena with Obamacare. They’ve proven it in numerous other arenas. Why in the hell would you ever cede more power to the government to fix something they’ve already catastrophically mangled and mismanaged?

 

Corporations are people too!

 

NHS Managers Given ‘Woke Handbook’ Telling Them Not to Offer Sympathy to Female Colleagues Worried About Sharing Toilets With Biological Men – The Daily Sceptic

 

But good luck getting in if you have cancer …

NHS Plans to Offer Transgender Treatment to Children as Young as Seven – The Daily Sceptic

 

The NHS Ends the "Gender-Affirmative Care Model" for Youth in England