Trump's Troubles

Seems to check out.

Boris Epshteyn - Wikipedia

Boris Epshteyn (born August 14, 1982) is a Russian-American Republican political strategist, investment banker, and attorney. He was a strategic advisor on the Donald Trump 2020 presidential campaign and has remained a close advisor to Trump in his post-presidency.[1] He was the chief political commentator at Sinclair Broadcast Group until December 2019.[2] He was a senior advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 campaign for President of the United States, and previously worked on the John McCain 2008 presidential campaign. Following Trump's election, he was named director of communications for the Presidential Inaugural Committee,[3] and then assistant communications director for surrogate operations in the White House Office, until he resigned in March 2017. He was a member of a team of Trump lawyers[4][5] who sought to prevent the certification of Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 presidential election.

Epshteyn and Steve Bannon co-created a cryptocurrency, $FJB, which officially stands for "Freedom Jobs Business" but is also an initialism for "Fuck Joe Biden". As of 2023, the currency has lost 95% of its value.[6]

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After Trump left office, Epshteyn established a close relationship with the former president and has advised him to pursue a confrontational rather than a conciliatory approach toward those investigating Trump.[36] He was subpoenaed in January 2022 to testify before the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack.[37]

Epshteyn joined Trump on his trip to Manhattan for his arraignment in April 2023.[38]

 

No offense taken and with due respect, there is still to this day 40 -50 million people that believe there was some level of fraud in the voting. Was it enough to make a difference possibly not, but Trump's lawyers litigating these charges in the courtroom would lead to a basic relitigating of the election. When this happens for all to see, is when the vast majority will accept it.

 

Upside down world

From one of the Tucker Carlson/Fox lawsuits:

 

Your expectations are misplaced. Those issues were already litigated, and a hypothetical Trump trial (or trial of one of his co-defendants) is NOT going to look like that. A trial is not going to Re-litigate the election, it’s going to decide if Donald Trump committed crimes. Nothing “new” will be discovered about the election, other than some people having to face they were lied to by Trumps “lawyers” (particularly Sidney Powell, Giuliani, and the “stop the steal” group).

Actually, the prosecution’s case will probably look a bit like something else that already happened in the public domain, the 1/6 hearings. Yes, the hearings were partisan. Yes, a professional prosecution will probably be a bit more concise and hammer home the allegations more directly to specific crimes against specific defendants (the 1/6 committee was more vaguely, “yes Trump did all of this, yes it was all based on lies”). But substantively that is the sort of evidence the prosecution will bring. I have little faith the cultists will he moved by being told they were lied too for the umpteenth time.

 

GOP justifications for crimes are hilarious these days.

Fact pattern: A guy asks a buddy for some money to buy a gun. Tells his buddy he will split the proceeds of the convenience store robbery he wants to do with the gun. Guy buys the gun and tries to hold up the store but there is no money in the register so he leaves.

GOP style defenses:

"Buddies ask each other for money all the time. That's no crime."
"He bought the gun legally. He could have stolen it instead."
"It's not really a robbery since the store had no money. The robber should be lauded for walking away and not shooting anyone."
"Just talking about a robbery with someone is no crime. First amendment!"

 

Let's make no mistake, Jan 6 and the malevolent efforts by Trump & cronies, and numerous others in government is what a real conspiracy looks like and is why Trump has been indicted, yet again.

 

I'm a sales manager and on the road regularly and not a day goes by that I don't talk to someone that doesn't still believe the election was stolen. I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying it is reality once you get out of the city.

 

It's why many call Trump a cult leader. Facts don't matter to his followers. Take Maricopa County, AZ, for example, the votes have been counted, recounted, audited, and audited again. Every single time, Biden won, by almost the exact same margin. Yet, there are still people convinced there was fraud and Trump really won. What else can be done to convince the Trump cult members? Count them again?

 

You may be right, but if you think they are going to have Trump in the courtroom trying to convict him of some wrongdoing on Jan 6 and relitigating the election will not be part of his defense then I think you are wrong. Hell, his whole defense could be that Jan was the best thing for the country because the election was a fraud and here are the reasons it was a fraud.......
I may be wrong, but I believe that is what he will try to do and not sure that they wouldn't relitigate if that is reason for "the crimes" he committed on Jan 6

 

You are definitely wrong, because there is no such evidence of fraud. That is why some of these former lawyers are actually now co-defendants. They lied. They admitted they lied to get out of other civil and criminal proceedings or try and maintain a law license. Now they are brought in under this criminal conspiracy.

Bless your heart though. Still waiting for the Kraken.

 

What is Trump's teams record in court cases about the 2020 election.... zero for 100? This is beyond all reality that NOW they have any semblance of evidence. Hilarious.

 

Baaa

 

All the evidence the followers need is because their orange god said so.

 

If 40-50% of Gator fans adamantly believed the Gators have won B2B championships rather than UGA it doesn't make it true or even worth discussing.

 

GINO

 

Very much agree with most of this. Needs to be televised for the reasons you state. As I understand it, that decision belongs to Justice Roberts and I don’t believe he is so inclined.

 

I read the report and recommend it to anyone who wants to read what the evidence is. Smith has more— he has Pence, Meadows and others. But the committee laid out the scheme very well and is heavily sourced. I suspect people would rather go elsewhere to have their opinions formed for them.