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Food Stamp Reform: Alcohol & Tobacco Restrictions

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Donzo, Aug 1, 2023.

  1. gator_lawyer

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    I was talking about the person the OP referenced, not you, to be clear. I've never smoked and think it is a bad decision. But I also don't think the government should police people's bad decisions if they're not harming others (which is why I favor decriminalizing drugs).
     
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  2. docspor

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    Yeah BIG GOV can solve it. by god, if bureaucracy & enforcement eat up 75% of the budget for food stamps, it's worth it to keep some Ne'er-do-well from having a smoke & a cold one.
     
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  3. gator_lawyer

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    Do I get to impose the same sort of restrictions on farmers who accept government subsidies? How about people employed by the government? How about people whose businesses benefit from my tax dollars? Big fan of expansive government, eh? How about we not waste resources policing this sort of stupid stuff?
     
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  4. Donzo

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    Anyway...Geez O Petes, what a ridiculous remark. That's like the opposite of what I think.

    As I've clearly stated the government shouldn't enable people, who chose to have tax dollars pay their expenses, to pay for the alcohol and tobacco.
     
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  5. Emmitto

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    Who in the verboten letter chooses to be poor?
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    grew up poor with a single Mom in late 60's early 70's. if it wasn't for public assistance, we would have been hungrier a lot more than we were. I think we need to return to the system that was present then with what they called black and white stores then that were full of nothing but generic food items in black and white boxes. No brand names, got day old bread, vegetables, and fruit to go along with the staples that we needed to eat. Stores were staffed by people like my Mom that was receiving assistance. I think she did 2 nights a week there after working her day job. People need help, I get that, but the method that we are delivering it is so wasteful that it needs to change. And no, if you are on public assistance, you don't get to choose the brand names, although much of the food came from the same place, just different packaging.
     
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  7. docspor

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    but, it's fine & dandy for the gov to spend tax payers' dollars to protect your feelings eh, BIG GOV?
     
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  8. Donzo

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    Well, the thread almost made it to three pages before ranting presented itself.

    Fan of expansive government?- lol... Stupid stuff is right.
     
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  9. 92gator

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    I agree with you...

    But those food stamp abusers' votes, count just as much as the sap sucker taxpayers'. Vote for damn vote. 1:1. Taker vote = payer vote.

    C'est la vie.
     
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  10. gator_lawyer

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    Your rationale is that because they receive taxpayer dollars, you get to decide what they're allowed to spend their own money on. That rationale does not stop with food stamps, no matter how much you would prefer that. What's farcical is how weak your rebuttals are to people pointing to the problems with your stance and the lack of coherence of your arguments.
     
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    I’d think many would prefer for those on welfare not to spend their earned money on intoxications, but I also don’t think we’d want the government to try to police that.

    I also recognize that life can be hard, and harder for those folks who qualify.
     
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  12. docspor

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    I know you BIG GOV hipsters* are into irony, but I'm not.

    * example: Reagan Conservatism. ha ha.
     
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  13. GatorJMDZ

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    He can name a lot of grades in elementary school....there's that.
     
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  14. 92gator

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    There ya go...votes for Barry, da shill, n China joe...claims to be libertarian....

    ...mocks Reagan for not being conservative. o_O:confused:o_O
     
  15. docspor

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    $168 if you can find a post where I claim to be a libertarian. 168% = increase to our debt by Reagan. most of my lifetime. Despite all those tax increases.

    Pubs like to dismiss cons as whatever & usually libertarians. Cuz, as we all know, pubs hate cons.
     
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  16. 92gator

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    Don't sweat him. Captain BIG GOVMT, who likes to bust everybody else's balls for being big govmnt....then posts some idiotic shit about irony.
     
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  17. docspor

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    gator lawyer likes to bust balls about peeps being big gov? news to me.
     
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  18. 92gator

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    Well then, enlighten me on why you always post shit about big government, directed at conservatives, while at the same time, championing bigger government.

    If you don't claim to be libertarian (good, btw--that's laughable, applied to you)--what political ideology do you pretend to align with?
     
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  19. docspor

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    1. I NEVER championed bigger or big gov on this thread. far from it. par for the course for me.
    2. Where are the posts of me talking shit about cons? 'ats a lie.
    3. where's your ire at the OP? HE was preaching big gov.
     
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  20. 92gator

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    Wasn't referring to this thread, and I don't see suggesting restraints on the government pissing away tax dollars, = bigger government.
     
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