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Lebron James ‘i promise school’ crushing it

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  1. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    They shoulda had rich parents I guess
     
  2. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Looks like you made my point.
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  3. UFLawyer

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    where exactly did I make this “acknowledgment” that you’re hanging your head on? This is the problem that you have in almost every one of your post: You just make crap up.

    I said this: “Money is not the solution to fix the poverty which plagues learning” in agreeing with another poster who correctly listed a bunch of factors impacting education, one of which was poverty.

    I posted repeatedly that throwing money at the problem is not the solution and has never worked. The op is about Lebron James pumping millions into a school which has made virtually no difference.

    don’t come at me with your weak a$$ 8th grade debate tactics. You look foolish and they will never work.
     
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  4. UFLawyer

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    Ignorance is bliss. Wealth without a moral compass almost always ends up with BK, death, incarceration, divorce, addiction and/or loneliness.
     
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  5. wgbgator

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    Or a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court, CEO of a fortune 500 company or President of the United States
     
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  6. Orange_and_Bluke

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    It’s quite hilarious for me that many libbies on TooHot have questioned your credentials and experience.
    I am here to say that you are easily one of the top posters by far and it ain’t that close.
    There are a couple of good libbies and I’m not speaking about them.
    You’re doing the lords work.
     
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  7. wgbgator

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  8. mutz87

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    Did you not write the below in the first quote? That is an acknowledgment because you're suggesting that you believe poverty is one of the causes when you were earlier emphatic that it wasn't the cause, which can only suggest that you didn't think it was a cause at all. You tried to make hay with your word salad of "a" and "the" articles. But it doesn't fly. Keep reaching for the insults. I can take it. But they don't help your arguments or hide bad reasoning.

    This is part of your problem, Discussing whether pumping money into education or helping out the poor was not at all what I had asked you about, and you know it. But you used it to try to obfuscate.

    Anyway, it only takes 8th grade debate tactics to eat your baloney sandwich lunch.
     
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  9. mutz87

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    I do but my questions weren't about responses to poverty but to poverty itself being a cause (fwiw, poverty is a common factor that links these issues together--and though not the only one, it's a leading cause).

    Would be similar to my asking you about what might be behind global warming and you respond ranting about terrible climate change policies and liberals being the devil, which wouldn't actually answer the question.
     
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  10. UFLawyer

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    100% agree
     
  11. UFLawyer

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    so your issue, as I suspected, is with the Webster family and the English language? Not my problem. Read more, less personal contact with yourself. Problem solved. Your attempts to try to explain some type of logic to your earth shattering hypothesis is also a failure. Here is an analogy custom made for you and your intellectual peers: you are a Gator. Tim Tebow is the Gator. You are not Tim Tebow.

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  12. swampbabe

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    It’s shame that some people confuse rudeness and bombast with intellect.
     
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  13. Orange_and_Bluke

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  14. UFLawyer

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    don’t feel shame, embrace yourself.
     
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  15. gator_lawyer

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    My understanding is that only 29% of Ohio students passed the math assessment they're discussing. And LeBron's school took only the bottom 25% of Ohio students overall. I'm not sure why people would dump on a guy who is trying to help struggling kids.
     
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  16. mutz87

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    Your argument might hold up a lil bit up if I was trying to address all the reasons why there are differences. I posed several questions to you in order to discuss what is the elephant in the room--poverty--and the second time, you attacked my motivation and then went off about govt and liberals etc., logical fallacies, bloviation etc.

    Here's a fact, poverty is one of the strongest indicators--i.e. causes of quite a few differences in outcomes from crime, to educational attainment to health. More so than "values" and "lack of a male role model." Why is that? Because poverty actually explains differences in those issues as well. Not the only measure but one of, if not the strongest, and most consistent.

    So you can try to cloud things up and distract with your hot gas but this does nothing to demonstrate that poverty isn't a leading cause and does nothing to hide the fact that you tried to deny it, focusing instead on being a little pedant-weasel on an article and dictionary definition as if these things would fool anyone.
     
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  17. mutz87

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    You know why some here would dump on him. :)

    I haven't looked at Ohio's stats, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.
     
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  18. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Problem is that most of the folks I know and grew up with came from absolutely nothing.
    My grandmother had a 6th grade education and never drove a car.
    My grandparents had values and pushed their children to do the right thing.
    My FIL came from near poverty. He is another example of working hard and pulling himself out. The values and the hard work matter. Govt cannot change these things.
     
  19. UFLawyer

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    opinions are not facts, and in this case your master said it best about your opinion…..

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  20. mutz87

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    I don't doubt that about your family. And sincerely, great for them and for you! I know folks too...in my fam. I also don't doubt that most of us know someone, maybe even many, or who themselves escaped poverty. It's not an absolute in which no one escapes. Leaving aside what govt can or cannot accomplish, I think you'd find fairly widespread agreement among the public that hard work matters.

    Hard work is a great value .Problem is, lived reality is much more complex. For every story of someone working hard, and say, escaping poverty to even the middle class, there are far more who also work hard (often doing the most thankless jobs) who won't ever escape poverty other than maybe to the working class. It's in the big picture that we see problems emerge. Think of it as throwing all of our experiences together and then seeing what that picture looks like.
     
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