Free healthcare in UK?

NHS only a slightly taller midget than US healthcare …

Can Anything Save the NHS? – The Daily Sceptic

 

Anyone remember the creepy homage to the NHS at the 2012 London Olympics ?

 

Yep, and it works so well in Canada that the Canadians come to the U.S.A. to have surgeries and other medical procedures done. That is a failed medical system just like in all socialized medicine BS countries.

 

You think our system is better? If you don't have health insurance. you're basically screwed until you're Medicare age, but even that is going broke due to the disgusting greed of the healthcare industry. Of course, Congress will come to the rescue.......but raising taxes. Again, the problem in America is the healthcare industry, and the GOP's failure for decades to seriously address it.

BTW, our daughter lives in England and just had a baby. She and her husband were very happy with the service. Guess what: it's not perfect.

 

And yet as previously pointed out the life expectancy of the average Brit is greater than that of the average American by almost three years.

 

Careful with the comments on the Canadian health care system. Our media puts out propaganda on the problems with other health care systems that are misleading while never addressing our own failures. Some our our doctor's suffer from what the industry calls moral injury where the care they give patients is based on directives from above to maximize profit over proper care. There is a story in the book "The People's Hospital" about a women in Texas who was diagnosed with dry gangrene in both hands and feet but could not get the amputations needed due to lack of insurance. They said wait until the dead flesh falls off. When there is a free health care fair here in Sacramento, people camp out to see a doctor/dentist for the first time in years. But people scream about Obamacare and expanding medicaid. There is an evil to this.

 

It’s not the healthcare industry you should be fighting, it’s the health insurance industry, the plaintiff’s Bar and the bureaucracy.

 

What does it say to our system when we have Americans going to Canada and Mexico for procedures?

 

Amazing how reducing obesity can provide a longer life…

 

Our media is in bed with the fascism of our system. It is still the best in the world. But it has many failures.

Obamacare exploited those failures!

 

$20 says you would never consider going to another country for a procedure. If you would…good luck!

 

Its already happening with Medicare.
Right?

 

Yes, and I’m sure that that has to do with the NHS. *sarcasm*

 

As More and More Patients Opt For Private Healthcare, the NHS Continues to Sink into the Mire – The Daily Sceptic

 

Watch any cable or network show and notice the pharmaceutical advertisements. Hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent to persuade us to buy overpriced medicines. It’s obscene. And who has vigorously opposed any regulation of just that industry?

And notice what is happening with hospitals going in practice from non-profit to for-profit, while quality of care has declined.

Our system isn’t all bad, but this denigration of universal healthcare systems by many on the right is born of ignorance.

 

When my brother took my now deceased SIL to Mexico for treatment they had exhausted all procedures allowed in the U.S. They were desperate so they tried an experimental one. It didn't help.

So they went to Mexico because they are either less regulated or better regulated (they are able to approve new treatments faster than we are). I suspect the former.

 

And others are going because standard surgeries are cheaper. It's a growing trend I read an article recently on it from one of the science journals

 

What a silly post. Why wouldn't I consider going to another country? If a medical procedure that I needed was too expensive for me to afford in the US why wouldn't I consider another country?

 

Americans are too stupid to know what actual government-run healthcare is like. It isn't until you live it that you see the issues. For one, if you live in a country that has 3 or 4 year wait times for ablations, you don't know better. I have Canadian friends who for years come over to the US to get healthcare they gladly pay for. The issue is with government-run healthcare you have massive wait times. Unless it's life-or-death situations, you may have to wait as much as 5 years to get a hip replacement or knee replacement. I also know of hundreds of afib people who complain they have to wait months sometimes up to 2 years to get an ablation. Most people in the UK who want to speed things up buy private healthcare. That to me is hilarious because UK healthcare is NOT FREE. I'm tired of having to explain even to people in the UK that their healthcare is not free. It's just that their taxes are imbedded so deep, you can't see the line item that says your taxes actually pay for it. And it's not cheap. The only thing going for it is you go in, see a doctor, get whatever diagnostics you need and walk out. No copay, no paperwork. But that's for generic ailments like the flu but if you need serious surgery, you have to wait sometimes a long time. Then, many diseases aren't covered. Get a rare cancer diagnosis, the UK doesn't pay for it. Nor does Canada. Elective surgeries aren't covered either. There's a lot that isn't covered by these government-run healthcare systems.

 

Quality of care. But absolutely you can consider it...and good luck if you do it.