Police are still the Good Guys

People aren't born blue. They aren't born with a religion or with a ballot in their hand. Those are choices.

 

You're right. I do excoriate police...when it's deserved...but I also defend them...when it's deserved. I am critical of the system in general, and in being critical, I make an effort to be objective and fair. But no offense, you seem unable to see this or the problems in policing because you're blinded by your own anger & obsession about liberals.

Thing is, this shouldn't be a left/right issue. It's a matter of how policing operates within our constitutional system, hot it affects us all, and what it means to live in a free society. If all you can think is in left/right terms, well that's on you. Of course, you are free to ignore the problems, but I reject your efforts to point fingers at me as if being informed and speaking out about abusive government practices is the problem. That's just nonsense upon stilts.

 

I think some of the issue is from the fact that certain individuals on this forum regularly/weekly/daily it seems- post threads about bad cops and the same individuals derail/ defame any thread about good cops.
It can easily seem like many are against cops in general ( while I think there are a few here that are most are not).
And we do paint with a broadbrush all too often. Both sides.
These cops are bad becomes cops are bad. This agent was crooked- all agents are crooked.
These immigrants are criminals - all immigrants are criminals.
The truth is both sides spin/ shade the facts to further their narratives.

 

If you want to know what my "whole goal in life is" or at least in my profession, it has been to pursue knowledge and educate others. I get that you don't like what I do (and believe I know why) and have made quite a few sideways comments mocking it. Don't worry, I don't insult easily. I'm a big boy and can handle it

Anyway, it would be of no help to police or to society at large by pretending that the problems in policing don't exist or in keeping quiet about it. You can't fix problems if you are unable or unwilling to understand the problems in the first place. And in the second, not to even try to do something about it.

But you'll never be able to see any of this with all that anti-liberal rage and fear clouding your perceptions.

 

Well, the other day you did write that liberals were "infuriating." Is that not feeling rage?

I'd say, humbly too, open your mind up to the possibility that you aren't seeing the bigger picture wrt policing/cj.

 

Looks like someone’s triggered by the police coverup and conspiracy thread. That’s good to know, I’ll make sure I update it regularly

 

I’m not a blue hater, I’m a corrupt blue hater. Get it right

 

We need more officers like the one standing on the left.

 

Some try to do the right thing, but ya know...

 

Props to this officer for doing the right thing and pulling this speeder over, but ya know..

 

I do. I believe you.

Agree. Of course police are only human (with the same limitations and flaws as the rest of us!) and sometimes make really bad decisions that once made can have enormous consequences even over minor issues. Same time, police have be asked to do the impossible for which many if not most are not trained to do or are capable of doing.

This is why I often talk about reforming the system, i.e. policing not about individual bad apples. A lot of those bad decisions aren't about the individual officer who makes them per se, but the system, policies and culture that makes bad decisions a much more likely outcome.

I def understand your thinking it's irreparable. Maybe you're right? But I can't get behind not trying...for reasons I stated above but also because the consequences for both the public and police can be/have been enormous.

Also, I don't have a problem with you posting good things police do and understand why.

 

See, I think some common ground can be had...with alcohol