NIL: Tuberville-Manchin Introduce Legislation

If players couldn't transfer then Florida would not have gotten some really good portal guys these last few years.
No Torrance or Johnson or Pearsall.

 

I would change a lot about college football. First, 85 is too few for a team. Population as grown too much and too many need a shot at the big time. Increase it to 100-110.

Second, a scholarship is for 4 years, come hell or high water. If a player is not so good , so what, he tries in practice. Students who make C's and B's are not tossed. Neither should players. I think of James Bates and Joey Nicoletto who did zip until their Sr year when each became starting MLBer and starred.

Signing limit is not 25, but about 30-35. NFL and injuries can cause a roster to get depleted fast, so with say 100, sign up to 30-35.

Third, the pay. All players get one same payment, starting QB gets same as 2nd string OL, make it say $72,000 per year, which is $7,200,000 for 100 say round due to medically out players = $7.5 M.

If a college can't afford, then exit the game of Big Time football.

Why equal pay? It's the time in meetings, the weight room, practice, etc. that they ALL put in, not just the star QB and WR.

If Head coach leaves, any player can leave in a 90 or 120 window. If not, a player is on team for say 2 years and wants to transfer, fine, but have one window, say after spring practice. So Soph eligible from say May 5 to June 30 or thereabouts. JD Daniels would still be at Uga, not W Va to Rice.

 

Before NIL the star players were getting way more than $72k/year. Your plan would just bring back the bag men. What about all the other sports too?

 

And too many hands out. That's what I'm counting on. That, and greedy shits like Alabama and Georgia trying to form a breakaway league.

 

Dude, nobody cares about "the schools" here. Remember, the schools, NCAA and all associated parties are the bad guys here.

 

We all know that isn't the primary reason that most athletes are at a particular school (either why the player goes there or why the school pursues them), but just for $hits and giggles, how many of the current UF scholarship football players do you think would have made it to UF without being a recruited player?

 

Take it to Too Hot. Why can't you guys get that?

 

So what is your vision, and your definition of "complete financial collapse of the system"?

You have no answers, and you know it.

While the current system needs serious attention, the system isn't going to collapse financially. Why would it? People making money don't collapse financial systems, unless they are Russians.

And who will be in this "breakaway league" that the Gumps and Mutts will form? Who will they play? Each other every game? And if they form a "breakaway league" and other SEC teams join them, what's the difference between that and what we have now?

Chicken little nonsense.

 

They'll play other scumbags like them, whose only concern is football.

The financial collapse comes in two forms as I see it.
1. Boosters just get tired of being constantly solicited, and don't see the benefits of being the "big fish" when everything is just pooled together into one soulless fund. Now they're just some mark on a call-center call list. Further, I would guess that the vast majority of big-spending boosters are boomers and they aren't going to be around much longer, and following generations (who aren't nearly as invested) pale in terms of spending power. Throw in the cynicism of kids with their hands out and the drift to a complete pay-to-play (ZERO loyalty to school, just the check) and even more potential interest and revenue is lost. . . Lose the boosters and you've now turned your program over to jock sniffers, leading to even more cynicism and disinterest.
2. Too expensive for 90% of the schools. Something's going to have to give and people have been talking about a super league or something like that for over a decade. Greed begets more greed and I can see the Bama's and Georgia's of the world wanting to keep more money for themselves and not have to share with the likes of Vandy, etc. That would present a choice for schools like UF, UNC, Penn St., Texas, Michigan (who care about their standing as a university just as much as football) and maybe even an option to leave the scumbags high and dry and say in the lower division.

Who knows, but I'm rooting for and love anything that brings more chaos and instability.

 

Knee Jeek: Dumb. Congress has no business stepping in any of this. But on second thought we have to recognize the NCAA dropped the ball so bad they are actually waiting on congressional legislation. That’s how **#}ed college sports is.

On the surface, the bill has a few decent things in it. Although schools might push back on the 8 years of healthcare requirement.

Also don’t like the 3 years requirement before transfer. No, we don’t want kids holding schools hostage either. I think all they really need to do is bring back the 1 year sit out rule, but let them have 1 free transfer. Doesn’t matter if they are a freshmen or junior when this 1 “free” transfer happens. Just so long as they put a stop to obviously ridiculous stuff that’s sure to happen in the current environment, like 5 schools in 5 years with 5 NIL deals.

 

If Congress didn't do it , who would? The NCAA, each individual state? Hmm.. We have already seen individual states weigh in on NIL. Do you want the corn dogs, gumps and mutts to have different rules than the rest of us?

IF the NCAA had its act together, it should be the body that creates structure and rules for all of this. But they don't. So it is congress by default.

 

Well yeah, the NCAA. Who actually wants the federal government micromanaging sports? Or even involved in sports at all? It’s asinine there are even laws on the books related to this sort of stuff (obviously things like Title IX and such exist because of previous inequality for women, and I’m ok with that, but to get the micromanaging down to the level of setting the terms of transfer rules and benefits into federal law seems nutso to me).

As the issue with the NCAA has been lack of enforcement and lack of subpoena power to investigate crooked institutions, perhaps all congress really needs to do is give the NCAA its teeth back to enforce its own standards. It’s supposed to be a voluntary organization in the first place, is it not? With the money going back to schools and supporting all student athletes? So seems to me if a school doesn’t play by the rules or stonewalls investigations, the NCAA should have more power to suspend or terminate rogue programs on the spot. A lot of the recent troubles have been caused by judges kneecapping the NCAA’s enforcement ability. Now if the Georgia’s and Alabama’s want to create some dumb semi-pro league outside NCAA rules, I say let them. I’d hope Florida would take a pass and NOT join them.

 

Agreed. I don’t want crooked Congress anywhere near my beloved college football

 

There is this thing known as Article 3 of the Constitution (part of the original Constitution, not an amendment) that gives the Federal government authority over interstate commerce. That would cover every current D1 enterprise

 

It’s always great to have the federal government involved. You know they make the best decisions for all of us.

 

Big boss man is always the bad guy but you need a job right. I see both points of view and although I don’t watch the nfl, they have a very fair way of doing business that serves both sides. The schools have held all the cards and now that’s over. The players have too much now in my opinion. Both sides need each other and both need accountability.
Unlimited free agency isn’t a good thing. Kids can take the cash and have very little obligation. Fans shouldn’t have to pay for rosters in the first place but paying to develop a kid for 2-3 years to play for another team with zero compensation seems like a bad system to me.schools/ fans are expecting return on their investment as they should.

 

Courts make laws for all citizens, not for schools and players. If the ncaa wants to govern players, they need to put them under contract. Schools can’t dictate players who are only students. They can kick them out of school I guess but they can’t invade their privacy by getting private information.

 

Y’all been bitching about NIL and college free agency. This bill is pro-NCAA and pro the major institutions (like UF) that heavily influence it.

So if you’re for old school college football, you’re for this bill. If you’re into an individual’s rights, you’re against the bill. All the other talking points are just smoke and mirrors.

 

Schools get lots of “private information” when regular students apply, particularly those who receive financial aid. Why do you think this would be different? Scholarship athletes by definition receive financial aid, so schools actually would be privy to lots of “private info” - both scholastic and financial in nature. Athletes receiving scholarship should have to disclose their finances on a FAFSA like any other student, and to lie on that amounts to fraud. So colleges actually should have a pretty good grasp of their athletes finances, unless we are now totally detaching these scholarships from the institutions, and if that were to be the case then “college football” should just go away.

What the NIL has done is essentially made the proverbial bag men and wannabe agents untouchable or semi-legal (semi-legal only because the standards for these “deals” are ill defined or nonexistent). The people acting in the seedy underbelly of football and basketball recruiting are not much better than pimps. The NCAA has asked for legislation to clarify NIL (and give them ability to enforce… something), not sure they asked for federal govt to set transfer rules….

 

Oh, now we want rules. LOL!

That's the beauty of this. Courts will strike it down and chaos will resume. Hurray!!!!