New Florida curriculum says slavery had “personal benefits” for slaves

I will admit to not reading any since I rarely ever venture in to too-hot, but that doesn’t change my opinion here. Way overblown as I see it.

 

How is what fake news?

 

I think you have confused the term “narrative” with truth.

 

whatever you claimed was. Post 409

 

And as I see it, it's an insult to Black Floridians and any Floridian who believes in being honest about our history. It's a continuation of the Lost Cause bullshit this state pushed in the past. Had they written normal standards, it would not be a story. This wasn't remotely a damned if they do situation.

 

well, using my context clues in my post you referenced in your post 409, I would have to say posts 1-408 in which anyone claims or suggests that RD is a racist or whitewashing history.

 

LOL. Calm down, you're gonna burst an artery there sport. You are the one who has been trying to change the subject by myopically insisting that the claim is true. So what? Hitler was a dog lover. Should that be part of the curriculum on the Holocaust? That is the subject. The subject is 'should this be part of a curriculum that is taught to Florida middle school and high school students?' Yes or no, what do you think?

 

Of course it's overblown...you're white. You don't care about historical accuracy. How about the rewrite of the Rosa Parks story omitting the fact she's black? How in the world can you accurately talk about that incident without mentioning that little factoid?

It's outrageous and embarrassing to people who actual care about education in this state. To others who don't or have another agenda, no big deal.

 

Question for the social Justice warriors screaming false outrage over teaching truth in history class: did you express similar outrage when you learned schools teach that men can get pregnant? If not, you have no credibility on this subject.

 

absolutely yes. Read my post from last week. I explain why. BTW, truth is not myopic, it is simply true.

 

If your concern is truth, why didn't you call out the members of the board when they released a factually untrue statement, in which the examples that they provided of people who gained marketable skills in slavery were often never slaves and often had those skills/their eventual profession identified incorrectly? If this is such a broad truth, shouldn't the "scholars" putting together the curriculum be able to correctly identify a list of example cases without substantial factual errors?

Here is another question: did they also say that they needed to teach about laws passed in slave states that made it illegal to teach a slave to read, to prevent them from gaining too many marketable skills and to make sure that they were less likely to revolt?

 

ah. Well if you do come up with an answer, you know where the thread is

 

You may be right about scrutiny, when it comes to standards and curricula. This particular issue, though, is yet another symptom of flawed education policy in Florida. Too many of the decisions are influenced through DeSantis's relationship with a small (and what some would describe as radical) private college in Michigan.
Conservative Hillsdale College is helping DeSantis reshape Florida education

With consideration to some of the higher ed policies during covid (students were encouraged to rat out their professors who employed distance learning), prohibiting DEI initiatives in higher ed, "parental rights" bill, compromising teacher prep standards, blocking the African American studies AP course, etc. there is much cause for concern wrt education in Florida.

This is all under the guise of political/woke indoctrination in schools. The truth is, the FL governor is doing the very thing he accuses educational experts of doing: Politicizing education. It's shameful and dangerous.

Ron DeSantis upended education in Florida. He’s coming for your state next.

 

Yeah not going to look for your post from last week in a thread that is 22 pages long. So because something is true, it should be included in a curriculum regardless of how irrelevant it is to what is being taught? If they include that slaves picked up marketable skills by being slaves then they should also include that they could have picked up those same marketable skills by not being slaves. Since both things are 'true'. Don't you think?

 

Neither can chattel slavery, robbing a people of their identity, name, religion, language, culture, family history, etc etc

 

Is reading a challenge for you today? Try harder.

 

There should be no silver lining for the teaching of slavery, rendering your question pointless.

 

What are you qualifications to determine relevancy in teaching about slavery in K-12? I'll wait.... {crickets chirping}.

OK, I'll guess we will leave it up to the guy with a PhD and former Chair on the United States Commission on Human Rights to take a stab of it.

 

This is why you fail. No one claims there is a silver lining on anything. Those are your words and ideas. Just teaching facts and truth. BTW, can men get get pregnant?

 

Looks like even Black conservatives are pushing back on the hill that Desantis Bros are willing to die on