Legalized judicial racism…

If I may...



It seems as if the definition for bias that @UFLawyer is using is represented by circle A and the definition for bias that @mutz87 is using is represented by circle B. Nevermind the exact magnitude of difference (not necessarily to scale above), but there exists some area represented by the difference between A and B. That concept recognized in that difference is still (potentially) having an impact on people regardless of whether it technically qualifies as "bias." I feel like there is a disconnect on semantics, but the "B-A" portion is something that still has to be addressed whether it is formally referred to as "bias" or it is called something else.

Just my two bits.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

 

Both are bias since bias does not require intent...and yes, captured in your diagram. UFLawyer continues to wrongly insist that only A is bias, using a construct found in the legal world, which applies to defining what constitutes a crime or not (for a crime to be a crime, there are two elements: mens rea or "guilty mind" i.e. "intent" and actus reus or "guilty act"), while ignoring a large body of psych/soc/behavioral science literature that defined different forms of bias.

A short explanation from some folks at Georgetown U about explicit & implicit bias (my bold)

 

You seem to not have a grasp of research and how bias is defined & operationalized and how it comes in many different forms. If you want to stop the nonsense, quit making stawman arguments.

At no point in this thread did I claim that bias is not in comparison "with another" (ergo, strawman). I've been consistent in pointing out how/where you are wrong and it's in your understanding of and claim that bias requires intent (which btw, if you read the Oxford definition that you posted, intent is not part of it).

Let me write it again so that we are clear: Your are wrong in your argument that bias requires intent.

Anyway, to answer your challenge..

The Georgetown explanation I posted above is suitable enough for discussion board purposes, but this one from UNC-Chapel Hill and this one from the NIH suffices as well. And this from behavioral economics.

These are examples/explanations defining social, psychological, or behavioral biases and also address various forms of bias that can occur in research (among both researchers and research subjects).

 

Here’s an idea. Let’s use my bias to rid you of your bias.
Sounds like a great profession.
Whoever holds all the cards, makes the rules.
Libbies will own us all, it’s just a matter of time. It’s infuriating really.

 

You sure it's liberals that infuriate you and not that American conservatism has devolved into an extreme nihilistic, anti-intellectual reactionaryism?

 

You didn't start out claiming bias was a "choice" Your first argument, which you have made several times including in the above but "backpedaled" on in another comment is that to have or be bias you have to have intent. I pointed out that bias, as defined in various sciences, does not require intent. And I provided examples.

You are free to have your own definition. It's a free country after all, but don't expect to have others respect your argument when you try to redefine concepts to suit you. But alas, if redefining things isn't enough, you then tried to move the goal posts and create strawmen arguments now writing that "it's nice" that I now acknowledge that there is a choice in bias, when I addressed yesterday morning I wrote that there is choice (per se, meaning there can be choice involved). Point is, many choices we make, including about bias, are not at a level of consciousness as to why we make them, which is to say not done with anything that could be considered deliberate or with intent, which is how it is with implicit forms of bias and stereotyping etc.. People are often unaware that they're being biased or that their thoughts biased. But keep on keeping on with your fallacious reasoning and misunderstanding.

 

Sentencing disparities are very difficult to account for. A young white guy comes in with mom and dad, an employer promising a job upon release \. Young black man has 3 children by 3 different women no dad sketchy work history. Even if they score the same recommended sentence judge see one guy in a different light. Wehave a Judge in Tallahassee Mark Walker who truly has figured it out. I tell my my clients you will get the sentence you deserve. That is all you can ask in a an imperfect world

 

Well, at this point I am compelled to apologize for drawing you into a debate with a person who does not believe in implicit bias . It's great to read your posts again though - thanks!

 

why is jumbo shrimp an oxymoron?

 

you seem to think a preference is a bias. Ans this. There are reams of evidence of cognitive biases.

They were told there had been a hit and run accident at night involving a taxi cab, and that the only eyewitness had identified the cab as being blue. They were told that there were two taxi companies in the city, one with green cabs (responsible for 85% of the cabs in the city), and the other with blue cabs (responsible for the remaining 15%). Finally, they were told that the court had tested the reliability of the eyewitness. In night-time conditions, the witness identified colours correctly 80% of the time.
Kahneman's subjects were then asked: "What is the likelihood that the cab involved in the accident was blue rather than green?"

 

1 of my favs is hindsight bias. peeps became so aware of their biases, that they paid to avoid info in order to mitigate them. goes something like this.

Subject A is given a series of stock prices & must predict the next day's price. Subject B is given the same series of stock prices & must predict subject A's prediction. Not the stock price, but subject A's prediction of the stock price. But wait, there is another condition. In this other condition, B is GIVEN the actual stock price of the day in question AND they KNOW that B does not have this info. In this condition B's do WORSE. They are biased by info that they know is irrelevant. Since B's are paid for their accuracy, they were also willing to pay not to get this info cuz once they'd seen it, they couldn't ignore it. this pretty much proves that bias is NOT a choice