July 21, 2024 was the hottest day ever (updated date)

Remember when scientists said The Great Barrier Reef was going to disappear because of global warming? Not saying scientists can't be trusted but they make a lot of assumptions that end up being totally wrong. Look at these two examples lol.


The Great Barrier Reef is at a critical tipping point and could disappear by 2050


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/04/gre...how-highest-coral-cover-seen-in-36-years.html

 

No, not really. It's hot right now because it's summer. Is it hotter than normal? Yes. But scientists saying this is the new "normal" have been proven to be wrong time and time again. I posted an easy example.

 

You left this off of your example (it is not summer in Australia):

Marine heatwave off north-east Australia sets off alarm over health of Great Barrier Reef

 

No they haven't. Scientists have been saying it was going to get hotter for decades now. The data shows that they were right.

 

Yep, the following link visually shows the prediction from the fourth IPCC. It relied on data from 2000 and before and predicted what happened afterwards. Solid prediction accuracy.

Study Confirms Climate Models are Getting Future Warming Projections Right – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

 

LOL. I guess you missed this keyword: "could". Let's deal in reality. Here is the reality for the Great Barrier Reef:

Great Barrier Reef portions have most amount of coral in 36 years

 

Do natural systems see increasing variability during periods of stress? (BTW, the heatwave is an observation from this year, not last year, and not a prediction)

 

So now it's variability to explain the largest amount of coral in 4 decades? Yeah, the coral seems super stressed lol.

 

What happens when variability increases? Boom and bust dynamics. Like 30% of the reef dying out one year and then a big boom in the amount of coral, then more dying out. At a point in time, carefully selected, that is exactly the type of thing you would expect to see from a stressed natural system.

I mean, this is from your link:

 

This "carefully selected" point in time was the last report on The Great Barrier Reef. As in the most recent. So, the rest sounds like you trying to explain away the simple fact that The Great Barrier Reef has rebounded very successfully.

 

Again, from your own link, from the authors of the study that you are referencing:

Sounds like the authors of the report don't agree with the notion that the reef has rebounded very successfully. Sounds a bit more like the massive kills led to a massive spike in fast growing coral that isn't really the same coral that previously existed and makes the reef more vulnerable. Do you have some evidence that the authors of the report that was the source of information for the media source that you linked are wrong about that?

 

Do you think they are going to come out and say "The Great Barrier Reef has rebounded and we don't see the need to have us study it any longer so we are returning all the money that was given to us to study The Great Barrier Reef"? If you think that is ever going to happen then I don't know what to tell you. The Great Barrier Reef has defied scientific predictions so of course the scientists studying it will hang on to their theories until they come true. It's called making sure they have funding in the future. But I do like the effort to downplay the 36% gain in coral like it's no big deal.

 

Okay, so they are all self-interested liars, except for when they report the things that back your points?

Also, is extent in a coral reef the only variable that matters?

 

LOL. I guess if I were you I would try to change the subject of The Great Barrier Reef having the largest amount of coral in almost 40 years as well. Good effort, but not gonna work. Fact is coral is the largest it's ever been in almost 40 years. The rest is just assumptions.

 

I'll get on board with climate change policies as soon as we get China, India, and Russia to adhere to them as well.

 

Why are we not talking about global cuckolding?

 

It is just an assumption that the growth was due to fast growing corals that are more vulnerable to bleaching and other shocks? It doesn't say what types of corals are growing in the report?

 

Russia is way down in emissions from the early 1990s (largely because of the decline of their economy). China is installing more renewable energy sources than non-renewable sources.

 

I'll be much more on board with renewable sources of energy when we can source them from countries we don't expect to be in a hot war with the next 18 months.