New Florida curriculum says slavery had “personal benefits” for slaves

You have a very interesting perception of the meaning of the word "truth."

 

Exactly. This is the point I alluded to upthread, about probably being a product of rape. By Muslims, in Spain, several hundred years ago.

I can't even hate the Muslim rapist if I were to learn his identity, for I, and all my known relies owe our very existence to that rapist, and that rape (or rapists/rapes, for all I know).

There is no *me* at all, to bitch about how bad someone way up my ancestry wronged another.

That's just how me and mine came into being...and let's get on with the business of today...and tomorrow...and leave yesterday to the history books.

C'est la vie

 

My "very interesting perception" is that this ("the skills that Blacks developed during slavery helped them assimilate to post-slavery society more quickly") isn't remotely the truth.

 

Your perception of truth is that men can get pregnant and farming, cooking, and cleaning aren't marketable skills and provide zero economic advantage.

One can only wonder how farmers, janitors, chefs, and housekeepers feed themselves. I know, I know, those aren't glamorous jobs, but people in those professions are a Hell of a lot more useful to society than you.

 

Not to mention, the Rufo-ian logic glosses over the fact that the slaves had no choice in what skills to learn, where to learn them, or anything else. They were property and mandated to working in exactly the “trade” they were told. The entire premise that they somehow were gifted this enlightened opportunity is facially absurd.

 

most of the time when I post to reply and spend time on the web looking for support. That was a couple of hours ago, but I do remember the BBC post several articles on migration

I found the information on sites including the one below

sadly, slavery existed before the colonies did, and have there been no slavery to the US migration to Europe, would have been a certainty for Africans


Our Migration Story: The Making of Britain

 

My perception of truth is that formerly enslaved persons overwhelmingly entering emancipation with no money, no assets, no education or literacy, and skills that only translated to manual labor jobs led to them being ensnared in an oppressive system that relegated them and their children to extreme poverty and to a status akin to slavery. My perception of truth is supported by the work of historians who have studied this issue.

What I have no interest in doing is pretending that slavery was somehow beneficial to these people or gave the majority of them the skills necessary to thrive in a post-emancipation world. It was not, and it did not.

You trying to compare laborers today to formerly enslaved persons is disingenuous. But it is par the course for you. You can keep digging and beclowning yourself, but I've more than made my point. That said, I still highly recommend this documentary:
Slavery by Another Name | PBS

 

"Status akin to slavery."

There was no improvement between emancipation and the end of Jim Crow?

It was all "status akin to slavery?" Then like a switch in 1964... bang... that's when any real progress started?

 

absolutely bizarre attempting to rationalize 10s of thousands of slaves manually harvesting tobacco, etc under the threat of torture, 12 hrs a day, 6 days a week, in intense heat is a skill and a benefit of slavery. FYI - by midday everyone here could learn this skill.

 

Not an attempt to rationalize at all.

EDIT: Stop “unnecessarily antagonizing.”

 

Yep and I heard about the various benefits to the slaves during my youth growing up in Fla. Thankfully only from a few folks tho and I thought we had moved past this. Guess we are retracing our progress back in time. Sad days.

 

How is Pitboss lying? You ever look at pictures of slaves, the hovels they lived in or the trees they were hung up from?

They sure weren't sipping mint julips discussing investment opportunities.

 

I guess I got put on ignore for this misunderstanding. Somebody let littlebluelw I apologized.

 

This thread is disgusting

 

SlAvEs HaD nO sKiLlS gUyS.

Cultural Landscape of Plantation--SLAVE SKILLS AND TALENTS.

"Slaves had many noteworthy skills and talents which made plantations economically self-sufficient. The services of slave blacksmiths, carpenters, coopers, shoemakers, tanners, spinners, weavers and other artisans were all used to keep plantations running smoothly, efficiently, and with little added expense to the owners. These same abilities were also used to improve conditions in the quarters so that slaves developed not only a spirit of self-reliance but experienced a measure of autonomy. These skills, when added to other talents for cooking, quilting, weaving, medicine, music, song, dance, and storytelling, instilled in slaves the sense that, as a group, they were not only competent but gifted. Slaves used their talents to deflect some of the daily assaults of bondage. They saw themselves then as strong, valuable people who were unjustly held against their will rather than as the perpetually dependent children or immoral scoundrels described by so many of their owners."

That last line really sticks out to me. "They saw themselves as strong, valuable people who were unjustly held against their will rather than as perpetually dependent children."

Democrats should take note.

 

I can't believe our resident DeSantis loving mod hasn't chimed in making excuses for him and saying how wonderful he is and that slavery was just a fun occupation.

 

He's lying because I'm not rationalizing slavery. I'm putting it in context and, in contrast to what some of the lefties here would have you think, actually giving slaves more credit.

They were able to overcome unreal amounts of injustice and obstacles through perseverance, diligence, skill... and making the best they could out of a shitty situation.

 

Benefited from slavery? Critics say some of the state’s examples were never even slaves.

 

The idea that slaves who were kidnapped, taken away from their families against their will, caged like animals in barbaric conditions on the sea, forced to work for others in inhumane conditions, were raped, tortured, burned, flayed alive, and endured many other abuses, can be rationalized by them or their ancestors receiving "personal benefits" is an insult to any civilized, and especially Christian, human being. Just pathetic and the total antithesis of Jesus. What the hell has happened to the Republican party?

 

he who blithely ignores the past is doomed to repeat it.

Don’t be your ostrich self!