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New Florida curriculum says slavery had “personal benefits” for slaves

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  1. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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  2. slocala

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    It was a unanimous approval. That should make us all concerned. Any oversight group in full agreement should be re-evaluated. No dissent is a sign of something is… oh wait 12 angry [sic] (wo)men or something. Crap.
     
  3. littlebluelw

    littlebluelw GC Hall of Fame

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    Clever however it is 100% a tabloid newspaper.
     
  4. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

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    I certainly wouldn't say it like that at all.

    But I think you're really missing something big here. One of the hallmarks of compelling story-telling is the "hero's journey." That journey involves injustice, turmoil, adversity. Completely BS circumstances. And in the end, the "hero" of the story emerges stronger for it not because the adversity and injustices were good things, but because it forced the hero to be stronger, to be better. It's so satisfying because it's relatable. People see their own imperfections in the "hero" at the start of the journey, then see their best qualities or "the kind of person they want to be" by the end of it. And in the case of slavery, that provides an easy opportunity for us to explore that kind of narrative because it actually happened and there's all sorts of inspirational stories like Frederick Douglass for example.

    That is a much more effective and productive mentality than "woe-is-me," my life is miserable, my life is hopeless, I have nothing to offer. And people with that "pick yourself up by the bootstraps" mentality that the left likes to mock so frequently tend to live happier lives.
     
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  5. littlebluelw

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  6. BigCypressGator1981

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    Some truly remarkable mental gymnastics on display in here. LOL @ anyone trying (and failing) to defend this garbage.
     
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  7. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

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    I'm convinced you can't have a nuanced discussion on this forum. I've tried but I really give up. There's a handful of exceptions but good Lord is it far from the norm.
     
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  8. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

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    I guess every unpaid intern who has ever worked was just wasting their time.

    I'm not particularly a fan of unpaid internships, but I don't think they're a "waste of time" either.
     
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  9. BigCypressGator1981

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    This discussion requires zero nuance. You're just incapable of acknowledging how ridiculous this change to the curriculum is because your side did it. Full stop.
     
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  10. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

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    Marxist: "The laborers provide all of the value, the owning class is worthless without the laborers."

    Also Marxist: "Anybody can do what the laborers do."

    To those who think farming is an endeavor that requires no skill, I'd recommend buying as many acres as you can in the middle of nowhere and trying your luck.
     
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    True. But the discussion was started with a sensationalized headline from a tabloid and people ran with it as gospel truth.
    That being said, IF the BOE did indeed attempt to put a
    silver lining spin on slavery they’ve lost their ever loving minds.
     
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  12. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    How was the thread title misleading?
     
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  13. wgbgator

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    They were (though most of the people who do unpaid internships have rich parents paying their bills, whereas people who need to pay rent generally dont have the luxury of working for nothing). Whatever the case, the people profiting from free labor were gaining far more!

    In the next textbook revision they are totally going to say slavery was an unpaid internship
     
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    What Marxist thinks that? "Unskilled labor" is a capitalist notion to devalue certain kinds of labor, it benefits those who purchase it at the expense of those who sell it. Lets get it from the horses mouth:

     
  15. Gator715

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    Such horseshit.

    I tried folks. The market has decided. We prefer this:
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    to this:

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  16. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

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    You, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth flip-flopping when convenient.
     
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    Explain how you are not comparing slavery to unpaid internships.

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  18. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Seems like my joke cut deep
     
  19. slocala

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    This is a rather disgusting attempt to brainwash children and to create an early moral truth / ideal that there is no systematic racism in America.
     
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  20. Gator715

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    You weren't joking, you were mocking in a manner that mischaracterized my point when I thought we were having a good discussion.

    You're free to mock, it's a free country. I'm guilty of it from time to time as well. It's just a shame because I thought we might get somewhere. Can't be done if that's how we're playing.
     
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