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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    What we may never know …

    How many lives were saved by people being afraid to go to the hospital, hospitals being the killing zones that they are.
     
  2. philnotfil

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    The data you have provided so far all shows that the unvaccinated who contract covid have a much higher death rate than the vaccinated who contract covid. Is there some other source of data you haven't shared with us that supports your claims?
     
  3. duggers_dad

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    I’m with Alec!

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  4. QGator2414

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    We knew healthy people were at little to no risk. We knew elderly especially with comorbidities and certain comorbidities were at high risk. Yet we went draconian and tunnel visioned. We destroyed lives. We caused unnecessary harm.

    But you keep following your studies and links instead of the hard data if you wish. Thankfully pediatricians and doctors on the front lines realized earlier than most realized that they were played. Yes certain groups with certain risk factors it could be justified in some scenarios to offer the shot. But most did not need it and they figured that out quick. Unfortunately many of them were coerced and duped early on…
     
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  5. philnotfil

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    How do you explain those who died of the virus before we knew it was a virus?
     
  6. duggers_dad

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    Nobody died of a non-existent virus. In 2019/20 the winter burden of deaths was actually below normal. Then you see an (a)historical spike that coincided with the WHO’s ominous pandemic declaration …

     
  7. QGator2414

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    It shows the young and healthy are at little to no risk. Which they knew…
     
  8. duggers_dad

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    News before 2020: “Flu season is coming. Frail elderly most at risk.”

    News in 2020: “Uniquely pernicious pathogen akin to Andromeda Strain coming. Frail elderly most at risk.”
     
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  9. AzCatFan

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    Been over this before. How do we isolate those with high risk? Put everyone at high risk into a COVID colony like lepers? What happens to kids who are living with grandparents as sole care providers? Or kids with parents with comorbidities such as diabetes or asthma?

    While COVID presented lower risk in health people, about 50% of the US population has some sort of comorbidity. And COVID was a top 10 leading cause of death in all age groups in persons 12 and older.

    Without any treatment or vaccine, what's the best way to prevent deaths with a communicable disease? The only answer is to take actions to prevent transmission. Again, how do you do this when half the population is at a greater risk? And there are people relying on care from people who are at high risk?

    I'll stick with my data from experts with advanced degrees and years of practical experience over your crap opinions.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    In 2020 we tried to hide from a computer printout, AKA: in silico genomic sequence.
     
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  11. QGator2414

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    The same way we always did.

    I could have accepted the 14 days. But the reason why even that was wrong is that we ended up where we did with a respiratory illness that we knew did not matter when it came to the idiotic draconian policies. Worst. The policies were not even based in science. You probably still believe in masks. You might be there with the made up 6 feet (granted I actually like the the results of this one minus the signs as it is more pleasant with the extra space at Publix even though it is not based in science). Shoot the idiotic plexiglass turned out to be worse. But you were doing something in the eyes of the idiots of public health…:rolleyes:
     
  12. QGator2414

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    Those studies “models” really messed some people up. Amazing how powerful propaganda is. They taught us that in school. But wow. I figured more would be able to understand it when common sense is being lost. But when you control the media. It makes it much easier to create your narrative.
     
  13. AzCatFan

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    Great non-answer. How have we always segregated the ad-risk population from COVID?

    Some policies were based on science. Masks work well in a laboratory setting. Unfortunately, in the real world, when people do not wear them properly, they become useless. How many people don't cover their nose? How many people throw away single use masks after a single use, or wash a reusable mask after every use? Seat belts just being installed in a car doesn't help. They must be worn properly. Same with masks.

    And again, the issue was with leadership from the top. Instead of doing what the Pandemic Playbook said to do, which was allow a medical expert be the only mouthpiece for the country during a pandemic, Trump made Fauci an enemy. Trump also didn't help with his, "magically disappear" type statements, his bleach statement, or his "Free Michigan" rhetoric. Trump was the wrong man as POTUS at the wrong time, and his lack of leadership will go down in history as an abject failure during a time of crisis.

    Things like plexiglass and space probably didn't help. But they were reminders that we were in the middle of a global pandemic. One that quickly became the third leading cause of death. And even if COVID deaths are cut in half, that still accounts for 2X more than deaths caused by diabetes. And still the only top 5 cause of death that at the time, had no treatment, and was a communicable disease.
     
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  14. Gatorrick22

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    No matter how many times we tell you that Ivermectin is a human drug you still don't get it.
     
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  15. QGator2414

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    We screwed this thing up beyond expletive recognition. You keep following your “studies/models” that have controlled you if you wish. Most have moved on with reality thankfully. Unfortunately we caused generational damage. We just can’t ever let that happen again!
     
  16. QGator2414

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    Great listen for those who are not willing to ask questions. The numbers speak. Yet the ones in control (government/media/public health) won’t seek the answer. There is a reason.

    This thing is about inflammation. I have said that for a long time. And yes Covid absolutely also causes inflammation. But…

     
  17. duggers_dad

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    That there are no viruses does not suggest a conspiracy. Rather, it only suggests a discipline that was founded on and is stuck on stupid. This from a former virologist …

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  18. duggers_dad

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    Based on a foundation of fraud …
     
  19. l_boy

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    If you’re buying it at the farm store in paste form that isn’t a human drug.
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    Public health hated competition. It preferred to kill people with ventilators and Remdesiver.
     
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