Are we being pushed into another Civil War?

oh, I see. I post an article on a recent event with massive national consequences. I give a quick take on how this news, coupled with other events and an opinion on the national temperature. I opine that the Country seems to be getting “pushed” towards civil war….an opinion which is shared by many in the conservative and liberal media. I get attacked (exactly as my op said I would), I defend myself and my opinion, and now you come on, a day late and a dollar short, and try to attack me for defending myself. Did I miss something sunshine? Go back to bed and sleep it off……oh, and try reading more so you can keep up with the informed. Here ya go bro……..

Is the U.S. headed toward another civil war? with William Howell (Ep. 105)

https://www.science.org/content/art...s-anticipate-a-us-civil-war-soon-survey-finds

Is America Headed for a New Kind of Civil War?

The Threat of Civil Breakdown Is Real

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/11/1071...erican-civil-war-but-this-time-in-every-state

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2019/are-we-headed-for-another-civil-war/

‘These are conditions ripe for political violence’: how close is the US to civil war?

Opinion | Is America Headed for Another Civil War?

Is the US headed for another Civil War? | Brookings

How To Save the U.S. From A Second Civil War

Column: Worried about another American civil war? It's not imminent, but ...

 

Assume the statute of limitations has expired, but the conduct is identical….should Trump be prosecuted? Assume the alleged wrongful conduct has been committed by the last 7 sitting Presidents…..should Trump be prosecuted? Now, to the point of this thread: if no President has ever been charged under the Act in the History of the United States, and we have had about 10 years of intermittent violence and unprecedented rhetoric in this Country….including an “insurrection “….is it wise to poke the electorate?

 

oh brother. Another poster who attacks the writer and not the post. Let me guess: Biden is awesome and Orange man bad! Did I nail it?

 

your first problem, like the dozen or so before you, is that you think my op was about Trump… just ignoring the very first sentence of my OP. Here’s an assignment for you. Assume for purposes of this assignment only that my OP is not about Trump. Go back and read my OP with the idea that it is not about Trump. Then you can come back and actually have a reasonable discussion about the topic. Trump is a player in the post, but he’s not the topic. Here’s a hint: what’s the title of the post?

Second, show me a post where I attacked someone for not agreeing with me. Instead, you’ll find me responding to the attacks on me in kind. Some of you people are so caught up in “orange man bad” hate, that you’ve lost the complete ability to be civil. This is why I repeatedly point out in this thread that the responses are indicative of why we are so close to the powder keg exploding. But, don’t just rely upon my opinion, how about you read some of the hundred plus articles out there on the same exact subject matter. I posted a link to a dozen or more above.

 

I noticed that you glossed over that my “talking about Trump immediately” mentions him in the context of this post isn’t really about Trump (“before you start bashing Trump..”). I also noticed you glossed over the title of this thread, which is about the potential of Civil War. Finally, I don’t see anywhere in your analysis above of the 50 other posts on this particular thread from me in which I continuously say, this post is not about Trump. I get it. Reading is hard when you can’t get by your triggering word. Orange man bad!!

And your comment about 200,000 angry and armed Trump supporters attacking Starbucks is rather juvenile. In fact, I don’t think I ever suggested that any Trump supporter would attack anyone. What I actually said is I foresee you’re two hostile extreme groups together on the same block, some of them are going to be armed, and once the first shot is fired, regardless, of which side, a lot more shots are gonna be fired. Boom! One shot leads to two shots. Two shots lead to 4 shots……. Anarchy….. Civil War. But that’s OK, because we have some soldiers on here, who took an oath to protect the country against all enemies, foreign and domestic. But which side is the enemy? Hmmmmmmmm. What could possibly go wrong here?

but I expect very little from you and your two dozen or so closed minded minions who all espouse the same BS. Orange man bad. Orange man bad. If this post doesn’t prove anything to those of us who aren’t afraid to engage in civil dialogue, it demonstrates that the premise behind this post, which is violence is going to come from the intolerance of the extremes, is absolutely spot on. If the only thing you get from my post is that I’m trying to defend Trump, which I never tried to do, it makes it impossible for you and I to talk about anything related to politics or social issues. If we, as a group of Gator alumni, can’t at least agree that we should take all reasonable steps to avoid violence and a potential Civil War, then there’s not much more to discuss in this type of forum. Somethings should just be truisms, and this is one of them. Chow.

 

From one of links above:

He and his colleagues surveyed more than 8600 adults in English and Spanish about their views on democracy in the United States, racial attitudes in U.S. society, and their own attitudes toward political violence. The respondents were part of the Ipsos KnowledgePanel—an online research panel that has been used widely, including by Wintemute for research on violence and firearm ownership. The team then applied statistical methods to extrapolate the survey results to the entire country.

Although almost all respondents thought it’s important for the United States to remain a democracy, about 40% said having a strong leader is more important. Half expect a civil war in the United States in the next few years. (The survey didn’t specify when.) “The fact that basically half the country is expecting a civil war is just chilling,” Wintemute says. And many expect to take part. If found in a situation where they think violence is justified to advance an important political objective, about one in five respondents thinks they will likely be armed with a gun. About 7% of participants—which would correspond to about 18 million U.S. adults—said they would be willing to kill a person in such a situation.

Kleinfeld says the study’s findings are compelling because of the large number of participants and because it asked about specific scenarios in which participants think violence is justified—such as for self-defense or to stop people with different political beliefs from voting. The sample does slightly overrepresent older people, who are not known to commit much violence worldwide, she says. “So the fact that you’re [still] getting these high numbers … is really quite concerning.” (Emphasis added)​

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To summarize the majority of responses here:

Nothing to see here folks. Orange man bad. 18 million adults admitting they are willing to murder others over politics. No big deal. Trump is bad. Posting about civil war is really posting about saving Trump. Orange man bad. Did I miss anything fellas? LOL! F’ing Sheep!