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Police Coverups, Conspiracies, and Cost to Taxpayers

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ValdostaGatorFan, May 17, 2023.

  1. ValdostaGatorFan

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    Before I read it, I'm going to guess... Aurora.
     
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    "the city of Idaho Springs and the Board of County Commissioners of Clear Creek County."

    Dont know if that is close - confirmed that Aurora is in Arapahoe County
     
  3. ValdostaGatorFan

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    I was not familiar with this one. Thanks. This isn't the first time I've seen an interaction with the police and a deaf person. The fact that he spent 4 months in jail and they tried to prosecute it for 2 years is a real shame. A pattern is a lot of cops will realize they goofed, and then stack charges on whoever they violated. I think they do this to try and get a plea deal, which I'm pretty sure limits exposure to litigation to civil rights lawsuits.

    From the raw bodycam I watched released by 9NEWS, I don't see 2nd second-degree assault on a police officer. I'm not a lawyer, but looking at the revised statute, I don't see it. Also, having fake money in your pocket is not a crime. Bogus charge because there isn't any provable intent.

    Although I haven't heard of this incident, the exact same two officers I am familiar with. One of them tazed an 75 year old man unexpectedly. He fell back and hit his head on a chair. I couple days later, he had a stroke. That cost the taxpayers $7,000,000.

    This is the case of a deaf man I am familiar with:

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    These cops aren't very bright. Isn't there mental aptitude element to being a cop? How long does it take after realizing that a man is deaf that if you a deaf person isn't looking at your lips or signs, you can't expect him to follow verbal commands....


    https://www.kxan.com/news/local/hay...essive-force-that-landed-him-in-the-hospital/

    “I just told them that I was deaf,” John said. “I verbally said that, I was signing this, I am deaf. And then they instantly, just tasered me.”

    According to John’s attorney’s, he then dropped to his knees. The lawsuit describes that John was tasered on his back, ribs, and near his eye.

    During deposition, an excerpt:

    Attorney: “Tase someone who is elderly?”
    Ofc. Dehkordi: “I guess if the circumstances dictated, then yes it would be.”
    Attorney: “What about a child?”
    Dehkordi: “Yes.”
    Attorney: “What about someone who is very frail, like someone who weighs less than a hundred pounds? Is it okay to tase somebody like that?”
    Dehkordi: “If the circumstances dictated it, then yes.”
    Attorney: “What about a pregnant woman? Is it okay to tase a pregnant woman?”
    Dehkordi: “Again, if the circumstances dictated, then yes.”
    Attorney: “So, like, under what circumstances would you tase a pregnant woman?”


    ‘Culture of impunity’: San Marcos police facing civil rights lawsuits for using Taser on 2 people, including man who is deaf

    Article is titled, A Culture of Immunity.

    This is the department that tazed the deaf man above. One of the officers that tazed him had tazed a complaint man in the past. Another officer named in the suit was at at fault for a fatal accident and had an open container six weeks before the incident. That was not investigated by internal affairs.

    Records show that Leyva was compliant, got out of the vehicle and two officers used their Taser weapons on him.

    Cellphone camera footage recorded by Leyva shows then-SMPD Sgt. Ryan Hartman walking toward him yelling, “Come to me now! Come to me now!” before firing his department-issued stun gun.

    The use of force incident happened six weeks after Hartman was returned to duty following a June 2020 fatal wreck in Lockhart that he caused.

    Authorities and Hartman have said the wreck was caused by him being distracted behind the wheel and running a stop sign. Officers found an open beer in the wreckage of the truck Hartman was driving but he was only ever issued a traffic citation and was not investigated by SMPD internal affairs.

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    The other officer named had crashed his patrol car into a ladies' car in an apartment complex and didn't report, then lied about it when questioned about it.
     
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  4. ValdostaGatorFan

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    San Marcos police sergeant driving with open beer killed woman in crash. Why wasn’t he arrested or punished?

    Hundreds of pages of records obtained by the Defenders in recent months show how Hartman, a San Marcos police officer since October 2007, was able to return to duty without being issued anything other than a traffic citation for running a stop sign.

    Officers, however, then detained Hartman after the truck he was driving was flipped back onto its wheels, revealing a double-size 24-ounce can of Dos Equis beer still in a cupholder among the crash debris.

    Lockhart police officials have refused to say why Hartman was not ordered to go through a standard field sobriety test or a breath test at the scene.

    Hartman’s blood was drawn at a hospital more than three hours after the crash took place, according to court records.

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    Seems like a routine investigation for a fatal crash to me... Find a beer, don't even bring up field sobriety tests or a breathalyzer. Seems legit.
     
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  5. tampagtr

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    Just wow. Those individuals should never be permitted to act as police.
     
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  6. ValdostaGatorFan

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    Connecticut State Police

    It looks like up to a quarter of Connecticut's 1,300 officer strong State Police wrote fake tickets with the race sections marked as White over an 8-year period in order to skew the statistics on the makeup of ticket distribution by race. The number fake tickets are thought to number between 25,000 and 58,000 and under/over reporting performed by 500 officers. While making up fake tickets for white drivers, they likely under-reported tickets to minority drivers.

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    Connecticut State Police troopers may have falsified tens of thousands of traffic stop records submitted to the state’s racial profiling data reporting program, potentially skewing the numbers to reflect more infractions for white drivers and fewer for Black and Hispanic motorists.

    The researchers were unable to corroborate 25,966 stops submitted to the racial profiling database while indicating that the number of falsified records could possibly exceed 58,000.

    Overreported traffic infractions by state troopers were more likely to involve white-non Hispanic drivers while the underreported violations were more likely to include Black or Hispanic motorists, the report states.

    The audit comes to light nearly a year after Hearst Connecticut Media Group reported that four state troopers in Montville’s Troop E — Timothy Bentley, Noah Gouveia, Kevin Moore and Daniel Richter — fabricated hundreds of traffic stop tickets for better assignments, pay increases, promotions and specialty vehicles.

    Report: CT state troopers may have falsified 25K+ tickets (courant.com)


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    After months of review, an audit released June 28 found there was a “high likelihood” at least 25,966 traffic tickets were falsified between 2014 and 2021. Another 32,587 records over those years showed significant inaccuracies and auditors believe many of those are likely to be false as well.

    The audit also found 16,298 citations were never reported to the racial profiling system between 2015 and 2021.

    Of the 1,301 troopers audited, 542 troopers had a significant number of “underreported” records in at least one year.

    The saga began in 2018, when state police investigators discovered four troopers had collectively entered at least 636 fake tickets into the state police computer system over a nine-month stretch to make it appear they were more productive than they actually were. While other phony ticket schemes have led to criminal charges against police officers in Connecticut and numerous other states, the four state troopers avoided serious consequences, even after Connecticut State Police supervisors discussed among themselves whether the troopers possibly violated criminal law.

    5 things to know about the CT state police false ticket scandal


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    So, what are the chances 500 troopers, on their own, decided to engage in this? Or was it a group effort, a conspiracy if you will, to operate in this manner? This sounds like a top-down approach to make it look like they don't target minorities. Where is the accountability. How are the original 4 officers not guilty of fraud? This at least the second state police department caught up in this thread.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    To the OP: well, police are gubmint.
     
  8. tampagtr

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    Beat me to it! Kevin Drum picked up on it - Need to improve your racial profiling image? Just issue a bunch of fake tickets to white people. - Kevin Drum

    Obviously top down and unwritten policy. Life imitates the Wire
     
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  9. wgbgator

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    If this was a plot line on the Wire, you would have found it even more unbelievable than the fake serial killer plot from the last season they actually wrote
     
  10. ValdostaGatorFan

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    Never seent it.
     
  11. tampagtr

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    As the other thread is locked, will put this here. American police see this as a threatening mob requiring lethal force

     
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    The cowardly cop who murdered the dog would be shitting himself if he was around these adorable dogs
     
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    NORTHWOODS, Mo. — On the Fourth of July, a woman noticed a Northwoods police car parked in a field in neighboring Kinloch – now, the gruesome discovery she made after getting a closer look has led to multiple charges against a police officer accused of brutality. Samuel Davis, 26, was arrested in North Carolina Monday and charged with first-degree assault, armed criminal action and kidnapping after police say he beat a man he arrested at Walgreens in Northwoods, breaking his jaw and leaving him bloodied in that field, according to court documents.

    Davis handcuffed the man and put him in the back of the squad car, and then turned off his bodycam. Davis then drove to a remote area of Kinloch without telling dispatchers, according to the court documents. When they arrived in Kinloch, Davis pepper-sprayed the man, repeatedly struck him with a baton and told him to never come back to Northwoods, according to charging documents.

    The witness found the victim, called 911 and posted the photo online. That witness also told police what she saw, and that lined up with what the victim told police, according to court documents.

    Northwoods officer charged with kidnapping after investigation | ksdk.com


    Good thing that witness spoke out, otherwise that scumbag cop would've gotten away with it. Probably wasn't his first time taking a suspect to the woods and savagely beating them.
     
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  14. ValdostaGatorFan

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    What a scumbag. Breaking someone's jaw, just wow.

    Northwoods police officer accused of kidnapping, beating and pepper spraying man

    Davis was arrested in Fayetteville, North Carolina, and is awaiting extradition to St. Louis County. News 4 Investigates later learned that Davis was arrested at another police department after he walked in and applied for a job.

    News 4 Investigates uncovered Davis previously worked as an officer for the North County Co-Op at the Vinita Park Department. His name shows up on a roster from 2021.

    Tracking other departments Davis may have worked at isn’t easy in Missouri. Under state law, an officer’s personnel files are confidential. On top of that, the state doesn’t have a central system for the public to see if an officer has moved around. The only way to know is to ask each department if an officer worked there.


    Yay for tranparency and gypsy cops! :rolleyes:


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    I did find this section interesting from your link:

    Smith said she’s happy Davis is charged, but said she’s still unsure if he will actually be held accountable. She said she disagreed with Bell’s office allowing a former officer to participate in a diversion program after the officer shot a woman with her gun instead of her Taser following a shoplifting incident a few years ago.

    So, my first thought was that this was Kimberly Potter, who shot Daunte Wright at a traffic stop after mistaking her gun for a taser. That happened during the George Floydd trial, about 10 miles away from where this Kim Potter incident happened... But, that was Minneapolis, and we are talking about Missouri.

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    Shifting back to Missouri, it was a different female cop doing the same thing... This is what I think the article is referencing, Julia Crews, a 13 year veteran, making the same mistake, pulling a gun instead of a taser, and shooting someone in the back. Assault charges were dropped against Crews after meeting with the victim in a mediation.

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    That incident with Crews cost taxpayers $2,000,000. The incident with Potter cost taxpayers $3,250,000. How much will the Officer Samuel Davis beating of this man cost taxpayers?

    So, we have a burden on the taxpayers, a lack of transparency in Missouri, and a DA giving a break for an officer shooting someone in the back, i.e. Same Ole, Same Ole
     
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    When you break it down like that, it’s absolutely infuriating. Normal people commit transgressions and it can permanently affect their ability to get a job forever, some of these cops literally shoot people and it gets met with a light slap on the wrist.
     
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    No surprise you’re hanging around this dumb thread.
     
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    I think somebodies wife is gang banging cops. I can see no other reason for all this hatred by just one person.
     
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  18. ValdostaGatorFan

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    How's that boot taste?
     
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    Fancy meeting you here!
     
  20. orangeblue_coop

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    Sadly, some of your beloved cops are just shitty human beings.
     
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