Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

If you want to run your healthcare on studies the government puts out and not on good clinical medicine. That is on you!!!!

 

And I did not say trust me. I said trust your doctor. Because I know the vast majority do not continue to follow the BS they were told…

Now you might have a minority doctor but the fact you made this comment shows you don’t want to tell us what your doctor knows!

 

Dude appears to be an anti-vaxxer. Has plenty of flashy statistical modeling, but the outcomes are highly questionable. Mind sharing where this paper was published?

 

If this is Q, there is no appears to be, he’s full blown anti-vaxx. Blocked him months ago and haven’t regretted, I suggest you all do the same. The fact that this thread still is going with the same bull crap being espouse by him is mind boggling.

 

I am anti covid shot now. Did not use to be. But definitely am now.

 

Do you dispute excess deaths ? Are you a conspiracy theorist ?

 

I believe this is it. But I’ve posted numerous reference and have been hammering on the topic for months. There are outliers, but it is a worldwide phenomena …

Excess Deaths

 

Many people block others out of emotional self-protection; the blocker cannot muster the courage to tell the blockee that their expressed interest is not mutual. In stronger terms: much online blocking is driven by avoiding an emotionally challenging online exchange (conversation).

People with low self-esteem are more likely to avoid expressing their preferences or saying overtly what they do or do not want. By contrast, people with average or high self-esteem are more likely to be appropriately assertive and express their views or intentions without blocking.

The Psychology of Blocking Others Online

 

I blocked Q a while back, too. This was a post to Duggers Dad, who posted some data on excess deaths from Scandinavian countries. I was referring to the author of the data.

 

www.mortality.watch

 

Well, well …

In conclusion, there is currently no evidence that the “collapsing people” videos of January 2020 were a “Sun Tzu style” Chinese psyop. Instead, they may have been part of the “mass psychosis” at the time, leveraged by clickbaiters and hoaxers and Western media, or they may have been part of a Western psyop against China, against the Western population, or both.

Did China Stage the Wuhan Videos?

 

No. But if the vaccine was the cause of the excess deaths, then we'd see a distinct and direct correlation between those who are vaccinated and those who are dying at higher numbers. Nowhere in the world does this correlation exist. Without correlation, there can be no causation.

What we do see is COVID still being top 5 in cause of death in most places. While a small number of these would have died without COVID, in 2018, nobody was dying from COVID. So, by definition, most COVID deaths are excess. In addition, we have seen an uptick in people from dying from common, but mostly preventable diseases like heart disease, cancer, and diabetes for example. The reason is people stopped seeking treatment during the pandemic. In addition, many medical resources went to treating the pandemic, which meant a shortage of doctors/nurses to help treat other diseases.

Excess deaths are real. But the vaccine is simply not the cause.

 

Thanks for sharing that. It appears to be more about U.K. & Canada. At any rate, I wonder if the data you shared have been published in a reputable journal, or if it was published on an independent website. I also wonder if the people publishing that work have distinguished between mortality rates of the vaxxed and the non-vaxxed (pretty sure I know the answer).

You're gonna believe what you want to and support your beliefs with chosen sources. I'm going to do the same. My take: The excess death idea is a conspiracy theory and one that if analyzed carefully, is demonstrably false.
Excess deaths would be higher without Covid-19 vaccines - Full Fact

https://publichealthcollaborative.o...a-to-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-are-deadly/

CheckMate: Have COVID-19 vaccines caused a 1,000-per-cent surge in excess deaths of children?

Covid vaccines are not linked to excess deaths, despite what the anti-vaxxers believe

 

Fly in the ointment: there is no Covid. There is only a test. And it can be easily manipulated as I have labored to point out. Public health has turned the world upside down, literally for nothing, so prodigious sunk costs require the illusion be sustained of a near miraculous cure for a non-existent disease.

So we’re back to undeniable staggering excess deaths in many nations, often higher than during the height of pan-panic.

So again I tender … what’s causing them ?

Note: cancer deaths have not spiked in UK. So at least there backed-up healthcare is not to blame.

 

Are you denying CDC and ONS tabulations ? Where do you think these researchers are culling their data from ?

Do you deny excess deaths in the US in 2020 ?

 

There is COVID. Full stop! Cancer deaths may not have spiked in the UK, but heart and diabetes deaths have. Those are often preventable with proper care. I linked prior a study showing the over-taxed healthcare system in the UK was part of the problem. The other problem is people not seeking proper care during the pandemic. Many health issues, like diabetes, it's better to catch and treat early, as an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Again, last, there is nowhere in the world that shows vaccinated persons are dying for any cause at higher rates than unvaccinated persons. No correlation, then how can there be causation?

 

No evidence of isolation has ever been produced for any virus, let alone Covid. If you have any evidence whatsoever, here is your opportunity to produce it.

That brings us back to the undeniable: excess deaths.

And have you now retrenched to no evidence that vaccinated are dying at higher rates than the unvaccinated ? That’s a far cry from your original contention.

 

This site has electronmicroscope pictures of several bacteria and viruses. If you don't accept this as proof, then what else am I supposed to produce?

You are the one that has claimed the vaccine has caused the excess deaths. You are the one that needs to show proof of this happening. I have shown proof that it is not, as there is no correlation between those who are vaccinated and the excess deaths. In fact, as posted above, there is proof that the vaccine has slowed down the excess death rates, and there would be more without the vaccine.

Can you prove the vaccine is the cause of the excess deaths? Charts? Links? Anything of substance?

 

I’ve already posted numerous critiques of EM. To refresh, virologists are people who presuppose viruses and see them into existence. These pictures are nothing more than point and declare. I can repost critiques if you like. Even EM technicians will admit to the shortcomings of the technique.

Yes, I assert that vaccines are killing people. They always have. None are safe. None are necessary.

Exhaustive archive on vaccine deaths, some of which were predictably scrubbed at the time …

Vaccine injury Archives – The Daily Sceptic

 

The Daily Sceptic. The height of GIGO -- Garbage In - Garbage Out reporting. Take the top story about the Lancet pulling the story about the vaccine causing 74% of deaths being pulled from The Lancet. The truth? The story was never going to be published in the Lancet. But instead, was uploaded to the Lancet's pre-print center, which allows others to peer review. Only articles that pass peer review get consideration for actual print in the Lancet. This "study" was so flawed, that it took only 24 hours for the Lancet to pull it.

The study was ridiculous. An actual expert put it this way:

Zhou Xing, an immunology professor at McMaster University, found the methodology to be flawed as it did not seem to factor in medical conditions and age as possible reasons that death could have occurred after vaccination.

"It seems an astoundingly ridiculous analysis and conclusion and I believe one does not have to be a scientific or medical expert to find the major flaws," Xing said in a July 12 email.

Xing noted that because a large majority of people have received Covid-19 shots, mortality rates will inevitably be higher for vaccinated individuals regardless of the cause of death.
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Garbage in, results in garbage out. Nothing but trash headlines from the Internet's "science" version of a grocery store tabloid.