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Submersible Titanic Tourist craft goes missing

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Jun 19, 2023.

  1. tampagtr

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    Viral take on the phenomenon that resonated because it seems to identify something subconscious but real


    Reflecting on it, the reason I think the OceanGate situation has become such a flashpoint for anger is because it's such a perfect microcosm of the problem with everything right now. Decisions are not made based on safety, reasonable caution, or concern for human life. Every decision is instead made from a default assumption of 'what if the bad thing just DIDN'T happen?' We are given pie-in-the-sky promises and sizzle reels and an endless PR hype-cycle for every new innovation and inevitably it fails to work, harms people, and then is maybe barelyapologized for before the next bad idea comes down the pike. OceanGate's underengineered, undercooked, doomed submarine isn't merely a metaphor for the hubris of the wealthy, it is a scale model of the way the wealthy dictate our reality. All consequences can be ignored, all blowback can be forestalled, let the end-user eat the cost.

    I am not angry because the submarine was badly-made. I am angry because I live in a vastly larger pressure vessel being managed and maintained by the exact same people.




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  2. WarDamnGator

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    Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. It’s not like underwater robots capable of searching below 2 miles of ocean are on every coast guard boat. Seems like they found the debris within a day or so of getting the equipment there.
     
  3. WESGATORS

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    I see this as an educational opportunity on the benefits of safety protocols and the risks of exploring relatively new frontiers. Everybody that put themselves in harms way did so knowing full well that they were not presented with a reasonable expectation of safety. Much will be learned from this (or perhaps, existing knowledge will be more accessible and better shared), and people will be even more educated the next time a similar exploration opportunity is presented.

    Go GATORS!
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  4. VAg8r1

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    Hopefully one lesson that should have been learned is that safety matters and that ignoring safety protocols in the name of innovation may not be such a good idea after all.

    A quote from Stockton Rush the recently deceased CEO of OceanGate and a victim of his own hubris:
    The Myth That May Have Doomed the Titan
     
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  7. BLING

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    Seems like a sketchy source for this “leaked” transcript. My money is on complete fiction for clicks. YouTube sucks.
     
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  8. WarDamnGator

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    The "crackling" is hard to believe. Their engineer said they had a "safety" device that could detect deformation in the hull, but said it would give you less than one second of notice before the implosion. Basically, saying that any problems with the hull would be an instant failure. If that's true, then the transcription sounds fake.

    Titanic Sub Only Warns 'Milliseconds' Before Hull Failure: Fired Exec (insider.com)
     
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