Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

You've already been shown more than once. But it didn't make a difference in your beliefs, did it? Why would showing you one more now make a difference?

 

I am not obligated to believe in something which has not been shown. For this same reason, I don’t argue that people are obligated to believe in God.

 

The biggest safety issue that was glossed over and sold as your body is just working to do its job is the one that caused millions to miss work. You best hope it was not SMI…

This is just healthcare workers. It is crazy how many called in sick for taking a shot they did not need and would not prevent them from getting the disease…

Work Absence Following COVID-19 Vaccination in a Cohort of Healthcare Personnel

 

It’s crazy to think of the number of people the shots have probably killed. See: staggering excess deaths in highly vaccinated countries.

 

How does this compare to lost work hours/cost of infection. According to this study, before the vaccine became widely available, March 2020 through Feb 2021, COVID infection cost the US $138 billion in lost productivity. The average COVID hospital stay was also 5.5 days.

In addition to the vaccine saving lives, the vaccine also reduced hospitalization and length of illness. So while yes, the vaccine did cause some people to miss work. Overall, the numbers favored the vaccine.

 

The vaccines appear to be causing people to miss living.

 

You were going to get infected anyways! Good grief you were easy to control lol.

Nothing like finding excuse after excuse for what could have been (but we won’t look into) inflicting SMI on millions…

 

Yes. You were going to get infected anyway. However, with the vaccine, you lower your odds of a serious illness, lower your odds of hospitalization, and lower your odds of death. You also increase your recovery time. How is any of this a bad thing? And why should we want to avoid this?

You make the point that vaccines caused some time off work. True. But so did infection. And if infection caused more time off work than the vaccine, then your point that the vaccine caused people to miss work is stupid, because overall, the vaccine saved time off work overall. Which it did.

But you seem to think the "safety signals" from the vaccine offset the benefits. But I'll ask again. What safety signals are you talking about? What are their rates of incidents and percentage of those who suffer a negative outcome? And how does this compare to rates of infection without vaccination? Because, for example, if your "safety signal" is people missed X time from work from vaccination, but infection without vaccination caused 2X time off work, then the data shows the benefits from vaccination.

I am easy to control. Give me data, hard data to follow and a modicum amount of analysis that explains the data, and if it makes sense, I will follow. You have no data! You have no analysis of your lack of data too! You have nothing but crap.

 

I am making the point that what people took the time off for very well could be far more damaging than you will even question. SMI is real (and yes...Covid could be a cause of this as well but you don't seem to accept this though you acknowledge it). All cause Excess Deaths are real. The drug was experimental. The disease was not dangerous to most. Doctors do not prescribe experimental drugs for people that do not need them. Unfortunately we lied to doctors to get them to push these drugs early. That said doctors also saw earlier than most realize that these drugs were not necessary for most people.

You continue to listen to buffoons in government and the media that do not treat patients clinically on a daily basis. One day you will get there. Hopefully.

 

Your responses fail to back up any of the crap you espouse. If the vaccine lowers the risk of serious disease and death, lowers the overall amount of time of of work, and the side effect are minimal, why shouldn't we be all singing the praises of the vaccine?

You claimed there were "safety signals" that showed the vaccine to be more dangerous. Yet time and time again, when asked to provide an iota of evidence, you failed. You did produce time off of work caused by the vaccine, but failed to account for time off of work from being infected without be vaccinated. So your example is pure crap. Give me real data for safety signals!

The excess deaths crap has also been debunked. If the vaccine was the cause of the excess deaths, we'd see more vaccinated peoples dying than unvaccinated. We don't. There is zero correlation, and therefore can be no causation. None. We do see, however, COVID still being a top 5 cause of death, and percentage wise, more unvaccinated peoples dying from COVID than unvaccinated.

As for doctors treating patients clinically, 94% of them are vaccinated, and 90%+ of them recommend the vaccine. It's the vocal ones that don't recommend it who are causing idiots like you to espouse unsupported crap that is causing significant damage to healthcare in this country. Show me the data behind the vaccine not being effective, and I'll look at it. But 5.5 billion jabs, and the data shows the vaccine to be effective at preventing significant illness, death, and speeding up recovery times. Yet, for some strange reason, you still think those things aren't important? Or some mysterious safety signals that you have yet to name makes the vaccine bad?

 

“If the vaccine lowers the risk of serious disease and death, lowers the overall amount of time of of work, and the side effect are minimal, why shouldn't we be all singing the praises of the vaccine?”

Because there is/was no virus and they’re killing people ?

 

Uber Eats is hiring!

 

So a physician who was fully vaxed and double bi boosted as of Gets Covid in July.

A doctor known for assessing Covid risk fell ill with the virus. Here's what he wants you to know | CNN

For the record I got original
Covid and got vax so I could travel.
Wonder if he still tells his patient it’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

 

As I said. Doctors were duped at the beginning. They know. Trust me.

Ask yours if they took the booster. And if they did…then ask do they still think a healthy person should have ever taken the shot.

 

Yep!

My dad 71 today almost took the shot so he could travel. After the BS coercion he said no thank you after getting Covid from my mom in 2020. Both doing great today without the shot!!!

 

Trust you? With what data? Whose expert opinions? What are their credentials? Why should I trust some random, conspiracy idiot on the Internet?

I trust the data. Every study shows the vaccine reduces hospitalization and death rates for all 12 and older, and increases recovery time. The bivalent booster may only be about 45% from preventing getting sick, but if there are extremely low amount of side effects, why wouldn't I want to reduce my risk and increase recovery time?

So I ask again, what are the safety signals? What are the rates of incidents and percentage of outcomes? And if you can't produce jack, then you why should I take you seriously and trust you?!?

 

“Every study shows the vaccine reduces hospitalization and death rates for all 12 and older, and increases recovery time.”

Of course, when you cook the books as I previously explained.

Simply …

Everything was done to amplify fears of a non-existent pathogen.

Everything was done to fluff the efficacy and safety of an unnecessary chemical intervention.

 

Quite the conspiracy that includes multiple countries each with their own health agency and medical professionals. Not to mention states with their own doctors and agencies, plus universities, and practicing physicians. Any proof the books were truly cooked? Or more bull crap like eXCess DeAtHs!!!!

 

And of course they were all tied together by the only real component in the time of panic - the PCR test (and the way in which threshold count could be manipulated).

Bottom line: unless vaccines were curing heart attacks and cancer, any suggestions of efficacy are completely bogus.

Bear in mind these guys are virus believers …