Biden declares Russia already lost

don't know your def of lose, but for a dude who thought this would be over in 2 weeks with Ukrainians welcoming him, I'd say he's lost massively.

 

Putin clearly underestimated the resolve of the Uranium people.

 

What exactly is the offense here? I’m really not sure what you’re mad at.

 

I’m not a fan of Biden but this is just a bad take by the OP. Nothing to see here

 

He was talking about the inevitability of Russia losing. Two new members of NATO without Ukraine. Ukraine likely to be added. Russias economy is starting to collapse it took longer than expected but it’s hard to fault Biden here at all.

 

Russia is 18 months into what they thought would be a 2 week war, just negotiated out of a possible coup, has lost dozens of generals and their Army has been decimated.

Is that the OPs definition of winning?

 

Biden has to spin his impending second proxy war lost in just a few years, the first to Syria.

 

You typically don’t man the border with thousands of medics and blood trucks if you think you’re going to be welcomed.

 

you?

 

That's the point I believe the OP was making. Ukrainian victory is anything but inevitable. Even our own military agree with that. Remember the leaks? Here Biden is just blowing hot air and provoking Russia. Surely he’s not stupid enough to think he is somehow intimidating Russia with this rhetoric. As he announces Ukraine is not ready to join NATO, no less. Biden is a buffoon.

 

It’s a false narrative. Russia would not have deployed 180,000 troops to the border to train for a year if they thought they were going to be welcomed by the Ukrainians. I believe you’re getting the Russians mixed up with our own military experts who almost all predicted the war would be over in two weeks.

 

If this ends with Putin losing power, Belarus may well join NATO too. Luka only exists because of Putin. Once that support is gone, he can no longer pay for the security apparatus that keeps him in power. He's wildly unpopular in Belarus and the people look west whenever they think they're not bring watched.

This war may end up on the Mount Rushmore of geopolitical blunders.

 

why? If I wanted a war to end in short order, I’d try to show an overwhelming force. What would you do?

 

They aren’t quite right about the two weeks they’re referencing: two weeks was the Russian projection for cutting off Kyiv with the two armored spearheads descending from Belarus. Two months was the Russian projection for reaching the borders with Poland and Romania before posturing to “liberate” Moldova. How do we know? Signal intelligence for one. Human intelligence for another. You have to understand how many Russian officers were captured during the disastrous attempt to take Antonov Airport at the opening of the war (an operation, by the way, that one wouldn’t have initiated without reasonable assurances of link-up with ground forces within days; so that’s a clue in and of itself). When their tales matched the hazardous talk intercepted by radio and cellphones, well, we knew. I don’t agree with the President that Putin has “lost” the war. But it’s certainly not the war he thought he signed up for. And it I has been a disaster for Russia in many ways.

 

I'd say no. 100k troops is barely a show of force to walk in and take Kyiv, needless to say, fight for Kyiv, and def not enough to fight for Ukraine.

 

NATO says it’s all over but the cleanup …

 

Interested to know if the intelligence sources indicated Russia believed they would be “welcomed.” That’s the false narrative. I can’t really fault them for predicting complete occupation within two months when most American military experts were predicting the same. If you watch Putin’s address to the Russian people on the day of invasion and read the translation, you can tell the serious nature of his words and nothing is mentioned about Ukraine “welcoming” them. But most people here don’t follow it closely enough to understand whether they are repeating fact or repeating propaganda or repeating misinformation.

 

Kyiv in 2022 was not Prague in 1968. Pootie pie didn't get that or didn't want to get that. They were just going to roll in and install a puppet in short order and extend their empire to the borders of Poland and Romania in the process. I suppose part of the dilemma for Pootie pie is finding some face-saving way to get out of the cluster#### of his own making.