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Dutch premier resigns

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by studegator, Jul 10, 2023.

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  1. Jul 10, 2023 #1
    studegator

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    Europe appears to be going thru the same issue that the USA is. Of course "migration" is somewhat different then immigration.
    Dutch premier resigns because of deadlock on thorny issue of migration, paving way for new elections
    THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — The Dutch government collapsed Friday because of irreconcilable differences within the four-party coalition about how to rein in migration, a divisive issue that has split nations across Europe.
    The resignation of Prime Minister Mark Rutte, the longest-serving premier of the nation, means the country will face a general election later this year. Rutte and his government will remain in office in a caretaker capacity until a new ruling coalition is chosen.
    “It is no secret that the coalition partners have very different views on migration policy,” Rutte told reporters in The Hague. “And today, unfortunately, we have to draw the conclusion that those differences are irreconcilable. That is why I will immediately … offer the resignation of the entire Cabinet to the king in writing”
     
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  2. Jul 10, 2023 #2
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    Another regime change in the offing ?
     
  3. Jul 10, 2023 #3
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    I thought the resignation was going to be because the Netherlands crowned a trans Miss Nederland. :D
     
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  4. Jul 10, 2023 #4
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    How is migration different than immigration in this context?
     
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  5. Jul 10, 2023 #5
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    Immigration, Emigration and Migration: What are the Differences?

    To help you remember what term to use:
    • Use migrate if you are discussing the moving process from one location to the next, which is applicable to humans and animals.
    • Use immigrant when talking about people and if you’re discussing the arrival point.
    • Use emigrate when talking about the place of departure.
    Be careful when you choose and use words. English looks simple, but it is a complex language and there are terms that have the same meaning but different applications.
     
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  6. Jul 10, 2023 #6
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    Which has nothing to do with the issue at hand here. Immigration and migration, in this context, are the same things. The difference is that immigration is a more specific term, which refers to moving across country boundaries. Migration could also include movements within the country. But the issue in the Netherlands was that his coalition of right-wing parties couldn't decide how restrictive they wanted to be on immigrants, not about people moving to Amsterdam from Rotterdam.
     
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  7. Jul 10, 2023 #7
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  8. Jul 11, 2023 #8
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    In Germany also

     
  9. Jul 11, 2023 #9
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    The wrong people are being regime changed!

     
  10. Jul 11, 2023 #10
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    At least one difference I see, at least if the article is correct, is that it cites population density and already low supply of housing as a big problem there. That may or may not be the main concern, but that's at least arguably different from the cultural fears and complaints raised in less densely populated countries.
     
  11. Jul 11, 2023 #11
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    I don’t follow Dutch politics but resignations when coalitions fall apart aren’t unusual. There is a Danish drama show called “Borgen” which you can get on Netflix I think, and there are a lot of ups and downs as coalitions form and fall apart. Pretty interesting show if you like politics.
     
  12. Jul 11, 2023 #12
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    The Economist podcast stated that migration itself is not a big issue, but housing supply is, and the electorate is convinced that migrants are causing spikes in housing rental costs though crowding out supply. Take it FWIW
     
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  14. Jul 11, 2023 #14
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    In the natural world when discussing animal movements we use migrate to indicate seasonal movements of animals within an annual cycle (elk herds to winter ranges, bears down from mountains in spring). We use emigrate when it’s a one way movement.
     
  15. Jul 11, 2023 #15
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    Migrants in the US, especially those that work in agricultural sectors, move with the seasons. Nomadland (the movie) showed that certain Amazon workers do as well.
     
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  16. Jul 11, 2023 #16
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    Though it's a great European country, I suspect you would hate it there. A solid anti-woke country would shut you better.
     
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    Why would you say I would hate it there? It’s best not to make presumptions about people. :)

    I’ve been there numerous times and enjoyed it every time. However, having lived in Belgium for two years, I consider that country superior to Netherlands. That statement might contain a little bit of bias. :D
     
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  18. Jul 11, 2023 #18
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    Poor taste and uncalled for on my part. My apologies.
     
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    They've been rioting off and on about many other things in that country. Our news does a poor job of shedding light on it.
     
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    I've been to both a couple times on vacation. Just curious why Belgium?
     
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