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New “patriotic” development requires homeowners to fly the US flag

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  1. 96Gatorcise

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    The easiest way around a lawsuit is to have each new buyer and any second sale buyer sign a document stating they have received,read and understand the rules and regulations of the community before a sale is approved by the HOA board
     
  2. pkaib01

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    It's a cult.
     
  3. homer

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    People moving in know the flag rules beforehand. If it’s a rule adopted afterwards that’s different. Unlike you I want my association to police owners and notify those, that violate them, including myself. If I didn’t care for the rules (which I read before I bought) I would not have do so. My association prohibits anyone under 55 from living here. Can’t think of a more “discriminatory” policy as some would describe it, than age restriction. A policy that I embrace 100%.
     
  4. homer

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    We did that at my condo at the beach (since sold).
     
  5. gatordavisl

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    Sure and we complain about them too. If there are other crazy HOAs out there, what's not to say that they influenced this one?
     
  6. tampajack1

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    Who are “them?”
     
  7. homer

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    Silly comment and you know it as do others.

    No one makes you move into the subdivision. That’s where the freedom of choice comes in. Lol
     
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  8. pkaib01

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    I don't think anybody is saying they can't do this or that people are being harmed. It's just that compulsory patriotism is revolting to some and merits ridicule for its hypocrisy.
     
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  9. gatordavisl

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    So people can't/shouldn't complain about militant stupid stuff? o_O
     
  10. homer

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    You pretty much described my neighborhood. And I embrace the rules.
     
  11. murphree_hall

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    Was at a rest stop yesterday in north Florida and saw a guy with a shirt covered in American flags and it had a caption on it that said, “I stand for the National Anthem.” I don’t know why, but it just felt un-American to me.

    Funny thing is people break the flag and anthem protocols all the time and don’t even know it. Or, they have selective outrage for violations that they do know about.
     
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  12. homer

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    Owners vote to change bylaws and rules all the time.
     
  13. tampagtr

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    I am generally aware of that. Never lived in such a community but I've handled some pieces of litigation that were highly highly unpleasant, such that I know I never want to live in one
     
  14. homer

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    Who cares? It’s their choice.
     
  15. tampajack1

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    I live in a subdivision in which every home and all of the landscaping are required to be identical. I am not that thrilled about all of this, but I have had sex with at least 20 of the wives in the neighborhood. It’s not that I’m a cheat or anything like that. It’s simply that after a night out at my favorite tavern, I have accidentally wandered into the wrong home.
     
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  16. tampagtr

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    Right wing types that try to define "Christian " and "patriotic" as something that I think is completely inaccurate. They may say I'm doing the same, but I think the 14th Amendment and the actual teachings of Jesus of Nazareth support the view that what they are peddling is mislabeled.
     
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  17. pkaib01

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    If these folks were true Americans, the HOA wouldn't have to make it compulsory. :rolleyes:
     
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  18. homer

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    Should we expect to see a bunch of Tjacks? Keep us posted.
     
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  19. channingcrowderhungry

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    The more American flag apparel I see a person wearing, the less I trust their idea of what freedom is.
     
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  20. GatorJMDZ

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    If I don't remove a dead palm frond within a week, I get a notice in the mail with a photograph of said dead vegetation giving me 30 days to cure. Most of our rules are actual deed restrictions.

    Back to the original topic, if people are moving into a brand new neighborhood where the flag requirement is clearly disclosed up front, I don't have a problem with it. I note with interest from the linked article that the subdivision will be responsible for erecting and maintaining the pole, so there is the potential for an ongoing money grab there.

    Several in my neighborhood display flags, which I have zero issue with. The problem I do have is that most apparently don't know proper flag etiquette. One neighbor keeps theirs illuminated at night, the others don't, but they are all out 24/7. Most are definitely not all weather flags, but are still left out in storms, etc. Any patriotism they are trying to show by displaying the flag is offset by the lack of respect with which they display it.

    Hopefully, 1776 Gastonia with specify all weather flags and will ensure the flag are illuminated as I see people quickly tiring of taking their flags down at sunset or during storms.
     
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