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Supreme Court rejects affirmative action at colleges, says schools can’t consider race in admission

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorGrowl, Jun 29, 2023.

  1. Gator715

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    Clearly because George Floyd died. Have to steal that flatscreen in honor of George Floyd.

    In reality, it's because different people make different decisions.
     
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  2. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    Why don’t you look at the chart again and see if you can figure how you inaccurately described it?
     
  3. Gator715

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    Why don't you point it out?
     
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  4. akaijenkins1

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    You have to be more specific. Because convicted felons of different races are not treated equally. The easy target is sentencing for crack versus cocaine. Or possession of marijuana.

    But even if you drifted away from drug sentencing, it is common knowledge that White folks FAR outnumber Black folks when it comes to drug usage and yet Black folks are arrested for possession, not dealing, possession, at extreme higher rates. Again, inequity in application of the law for one group versus another is absolutely a problem when being convicted of a crime has direct impact on future societal outcomes.

    But let’s push away from drugs entirely. A Black man and a white man, or even more extreme, a Black TEEN and a White teen standing before a judge for any like crime (grand theft larceny, assault, etc.) will not receive the same sentencing and as a result will have divergent outcomes. This is a fact backed by research. The same as a Black man and White man (EDIT: and with the same qualifications!) applying for the same job or same home loan.

    So it IS a problem when convicted felons of differing races get disparate treatment within the system of being felons. In this country, they have never and continue to not be the same.

    See Opioid CRISIS versus Crack EPIDEMIC
     
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  5. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    It doesn’t say ‘committed’. It says ‘arrested.’
     
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  6. Gator715

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    I also care enough to give them the agency to make their own decisions rather than making elitist White liberals in ivory towers make those decisions for them.
     
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  7. PerSeGator

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    Why do black people make different decisions?
     
  8. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Family culture.
     
  9. PerSeGator

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    Why is that different?
     
  10. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Why is Vietnamese family culture different?
     
  11. PerSeGator

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    Tell me.
     
  12. Gator715

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    You might have a point if the conviction rate was something low, not 93%.

    Of the 87,709 defendants terminated during Fiscal Year 2012, 80,963, or 93 percent, either pled guilty or were found guilty. See Table 3. The rate of conviction remained over 90 percent, as it has since Fiscal Year 2001.

    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/usao/legacy/2013/10/28/12statrpt.pdf
     
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  13. BigCypressGator1981

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    Is it?
     
  14. BigCypressGator1981

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    and what’s the conviction rate for people who aren’t arrested?
     
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  15. Gator715

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    Because you group literally anybody into these arbitrary groups and they will make different decisions.

    And the differences will spark an even greater contrast if people are segregated based on these groups creating cultural differences.
     
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  16. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Parents usually parent the way they were parented. It is how a family culture is formed and perpetuated.
    In different parts of the world, people have differing values.
     
  17. PerSeGator

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    So you figure it’s all just random chance? Interesting. What proof do you have of that?
     
  18. rivergator

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    Conviction rate doesn't change anything when you don't know who wasn't arrested. Arrested and committed are simply not the same thing.

    Haven't you gone on and on about how Biden did the same thing with classified documents that Trump? That can't be true, can it? I mean Trump was arrested and Biden wasn't. Therefore ....
     
  19. PerSeGator

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    So the issues you think are present were passed down through the generations. Interesting. What might have affected black people over the generations?
     
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    The financial effect since legalized equality..

    The gap remains the same..

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