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SCOTUS kills Biden's student loan/debt relief plan...

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorGrowl, Jun 30, 2023.

  1. ridgetop

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    Until a politician can show some way of stopping the climb of education costs, of stopping the predatory lending practices, of putting gates innplace to stop our nation from getting in this mess again… this is nothing but a bribery attempt.
    “Vote for me and I’ll pay off your school debt”
    “The evil other side wants you trapped in debt”
    But what happens I. 20 years? Another bail out? What happens to the next three generations if there is no change to how college tuition is paid for?
    It’s bribery and if it was the other side doing it the rules would be reversed as to who on this board was for it and who was against it
     
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  2. Spurffelbow833

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    Oh! The humanity! Our democracy!

    Maybe if it's a little harder to earn a useless degree, society will be forced to re-adapt to the idea that a high school education should be the gateway to sustainability.
     
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  3. tampagtr

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    Freaking hilarious. The Obamas made money, which proves some rough approximation of equality of opportunity.

    I would say the Obama's success is the paradigmatic example of how deeply racists are society remains. Because he, by all accounts, was among the smartest, most capable individuals in public life in the last few decades, and also was relatively beyond reproach in terms of personal morality.

    And that election led to a backlash election and perhaps the least capable, least intelligent, least moral human being not only in public service, but perhaps almost anywhere in society, being given power. And he ran on the message of reactionary white supremacy to Obama's election, outpacing multiple far more qualified rivals for the party nomination, who would not express a sufficiently racist message, such that the base said, we want the guy that's openly racist, not the ones who would be more traditionally qualified. Because the thought of a world in which Barack Obama could be the leader requires extreme action.
     
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  4. swampbabe

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    This is why I have to explain to students that “liberal” courts are not synonymous with judicial activism. This conservative court is quite activist to the point of hearing and ruling on a case that was a hypothetical.

    Originalism is used by both sides when it is convenient to their viewpoint.
     
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  5. Orange_and_Bluke

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    This place is teeming with high brow, ph d braggarts who look down their noses at the rest of us.
    Somehow they congregated here in too hot.
     
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  6. UFLawyer

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    Can I get a new Tesla to help global freezing/heating/weather?
     
  7. antny1

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    Except he asked me and I'm far from either of those.

    Most people just expect a cogent response instead of memes and emojis. Not sure how that makes anyone a PHD or braggart...
     
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  8. mdgator05

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    And yet, here in reality, that isn't what happens. Almost like your comment about Republicans wasn't accurate.
     
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  9. UFLawyer

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    Hence…”I have a dream”
     
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  10. gatordavisl

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    Did you walk uphill to and from work in the rain and snow?
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    Okay, so we both agree your initial comment was not true. Okay then.
     
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  12. UFLawyer

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    I think you would need to provide a little more specifics as I have no idea what the f comment you’re talking about
     
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  13. mdgator05

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    This one:

    Well, you have to give Republicans some credit. At least they’re honest in that they won’t try to buy votes.
     
  14. gatordavisl

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    Thank goodness I didn't take a sip of coffee before reading this.
     
  15. phatGator

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    I was confused by Obama statement. She starts off by saying she was proud of getting into the prestigious school and she was afraid people might think she got there because of affirmative action. Then she bemoans the fact that affirmative action has been removed.
     
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  16. Orange_and_Bluke

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    You were a bit snarky no?
    No worries man. My comment stands even if you don’t fit the description.
     
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  17. UFLawyer

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    I think you need some help with relationship posting. Your comment is both random and incorrect. There is no relationship between my original post about buying votes and “my dream”. The first is a statement of fact, the second is an aspirational dream, which likely would fall into the category of an opinion. They are not on the same subject matter either.
     
  18. antny1

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    I was but not from some condescending educational soapbox. I think most people on both sides of the aisle acknowledge the days of a single income blue collar earner owning a house, car and having a kid or two are long gone. It just pains me to hear people justify their arguments based on a period of time no longer analogous to today's world. Cars today cost as much as houses did then. Houses and all of the costs associated with them are up incredibly as well. So is education. People can claim wages are up but when a single income stream is up, it's not enough to offset all of the expenses that have gone up disproportionately.
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    Lol, that is a big word salad. You tried to claim Republicans don't buy votes, I showed an instance of them doing exactly that, you tried to substitute your aspiration for reality (which is the problem here, not that I don't know the difference), and now you are trying to squirm out of it. You said something even you know is false.
     
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  20. cron78

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    You are probably correct, but that doesn’t make it right or fair to everyone or necessary for the survival of our country.
     
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