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Supreme Court rejects affirmative action at colleges, says schools can’t consider race in admission

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorGrowl, Jun 29, 2023.

  1. ncargat1

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    "Balancing the Scales"
     
  2. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Your news feed editor…
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    I have no idea what you are saying at least half the time on here. Who ever showed you how to use Tenor or Gify took at least a dozen IQ points out of your posts and I’m not sure you were able to afford it.
     
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  4. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Let me spell it out for you.
    Your news feed sources and content are freakin nutzoid.
    It’s entertaining as hell though. Keep it coming.
     
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  5. citygator

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    Not surprised. Isnt there some cops torturing black Americans that you can sympathize with somewhere?
     
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    I get it man. It was another bad day for libbies. You need to look at your white hot hate news feed to assuage the butthurt.
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  7. Contra

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    This SCOTUS gets it. This is what justice should be like.
     
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  8. UFLawyer

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    Well, there is the difference between you and I. Rather than weigh the shit and try to put more shit on the scale, I just throw that shit away and start over. Who the hell wants to have a shitty scale?
     
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  9. ncargat1

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  10. gatordavisl

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    tribalism over principles . . . got it.
     
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  11. Contra

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  12. BLING

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    Big day for the mediocre white male’s chances at Harvard admissions. Your odds at “scoring” just ticked up from 1/1,000,000,000 to 1/999,999,999. In reality, it’s probably more of a slight boon to Asian American enrollment at Harvard.

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    Seems a bit irrelevant for the most part depending on the state in question. I’d hope it doesn’t even impact UF, but I don’t know what metrics they use. I think it would be a bigger deal in parts of the Deep South with larger % black populations, and a history of treating them as 2nd class citizens. North Carolina for example has 21% AA population, but just 8% of UNC-chapel hill enrollment. If they were doing affirmative action to get to 8%, they must really suck at it since it drastically underrepresents the state population. Not that I think Affirmative Action should be that extremely rigid to exactly match population demographics, just that in a “colorblind society” that would be the natural outcome. We only have discrepancies such as this, because we have never been *color blind*, and it’s incredibly naive (or plain dishonest) to suggest this is where society is. If the next classes really drop off with the AA and minority enrollment from those already low levels, is anyone really thinking that’s a good thing going forward? The best outcome would actually be for universities to find other ways to make sure this doesn’t happen.
     
  13. tilly

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    BCG, Honest question... Is it constitutional to chose people based on race? Why of why not?

    Do you not think income would be a better option and would still be a large help to people who need it most?
     
  14. gatordavisl

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    Shitty scale is the reality. You want/need to white-wash it?
     
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  15. BLING

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    If we are talking a state university, the mission is to educate the residents of a state. *ALL* parts of the state. If there is evidence poor rural areas are under-represented in state universities, there should be efforts made to make sure the top students from all corners are admitted in relatively proportional numbers. Just as efforts should be made for poor urban areas.

    One easy way to accomplish this is to guarantee admissions to the top 5% or top 10% of a graduating class (whatever makes sense numbers wise at UF, and have a second tier “automatically admitted” to other state schools). That cuts through some of the resource disadvantages that go into SAT prep and create discrepancies there.

    With a school like Harvard it’s obviously very different, they can literally get the best and brightest from around the world. So their selections are naturally going to be somewhat arbitrary to get what they see as a “well rounded” class. I don’t think 50 years ago, or even 10 years ago, anyone had “Asians facing reverse discrimination at Harvard” on their bingo card, but honestly what Harvard does in their admissions is inconsequential to me. I don’t see it as an issue to strive for a diverse class, even along racial lines, i definitely see it as an issue where there is a lack of diversity… but that wasn’t exactly the issue at Harvard.
     
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  16. BigCypressGator1981

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    No it’s not constitutional. Neither is slavery which existed for 8 decades in spite of the constitution. The point of affirmative actions is to make right those wrongs.
     
  17. tilly

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    Ok. So is race or income a better measurement? That's what I am asking.
     
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    Your scale is only shity because you put shit on it. I didn’t put shit on your scale and I have no obligation to stick my hands in your shit, take your shit or have sympathy for your shit. It’s your shit, you deal with it.
     
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  19. tilly

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    Ok. Understood, but...
    1. Two wrongs dont make a right.
    2. Should this court ignore the constitution because a previous court did?
    3. Is it the best way to right the wrong?
     
  20. gatordavisl

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    It was under the original iteration. Ask yourself why. Then reconcile the process and time it took to correct that.