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Supreme Court rejects affirmative action at colleges, says schools can’t consider race in admission

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorGrowl, Jun 29, 2023.

  1. BigCypressGator1981

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  2. UFLawyer

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  3. kygator

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    No, that would be like you being asked if most people die from Covid and saying no. At what point did I say not to worry about the ones who got denied based on race?
     
  4. gatordavisl

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  5. Gator715

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    Your snark is noted.

    There comes a point where past discrimination doesn't justify present discrimination. SCOTUS thinks we're there, as do I.
     
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  6. gatordavisl

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    UF? Pffft . . . I wasn't even referring to UF. Merit-based quals, esp. those based upon standardized test scores indeed disadvantage students from underrep'd populations.
     
  7. okeechobee

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    The conversation you’re trying to hijack was about UF.
     
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  8. okeechobee

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    Maybe if you and @gatordavisl keep moving the goal posts enough, we’ll all get tired of pointing out the blatantly obvious truth.
     
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  9. okeechobee

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    As with the transgender discussions, they’ve chosen to lie to each other as standard form of communication.
     
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  10. kygator

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    What goalposts did I move? I was in a back and forth argument with wgbgator. He was taking the position that race based admissions were not discriminatory against other races. I was taking the position that it is discriminatory. At one point he asked if most people are denied admission because of their race. I simply said most weren’t.
     
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  11. UFLawyer

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    Nailed it. When you use discrimination to combat discrimination, there’s another word for that: it’s called vengeance.
     
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  12. okeechobee

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    Fair enough.
     
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  13. snatchmagnet

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    Great point, but you kind of lost me at other.
     
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  14. gatordavisl

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    Incorrect. The unsolicited post I responded to was:

    What's wrong with merit-based, color-blind admissions?

     
  15. GatorJMDZ

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    You were there 20 years ago.
     
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  16. ncargat1

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    Or, expand admissions by 1.
     
  17. Gator715

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    At what point will you be there if you aren't there already?
     
  18. WC53

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    Surprised the religious accommodation case isn’t getting more traction. It will be a big deal.
     
  19. citygator

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    Raw and pointed.

    The Supreme Court Has Killed Affirmative Action. Mediocre Whites Can Rest Easier.

    But the conservatives did not adopt originalism for its good-faith arguments. They’re not ending affirmative action to help Asian American students get into Harvard or UNC. The conservative majority is ending affirmative action because college admissions are maybe the only place in American life where being white isn’t an automatic benefit to the possessor of precious white skin.

    That has always been affirmative action’s true sin. Whiteness in this country is celebrated, protected, and centered. It’s given the default position—to such an extent that even my own Black-ass self, in my Black-ass columns, will often use the term “non-white,” as if melanin deficiency is somehow the global standard everyone else deviates from. To have anything, anything at all, where white people aren’t perceived as the primary beneficiaries of a policy or program is anathema to this country. It’s so bad that scores of white people will vote against policies that benefit primarily them (health care, food stamps, drug rehabilitation programs) if they even think that too many people of color are getting in on the action.

    To wit, historically, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action have been white women. Women held only 35 percent of bachelor degrees before affirmative action policies were reintroduced; now, women’s enrollment in college outpaces men, and has for some time. Now, elite colleges and universities are giving men a boost in admissions considerations, because their grades and scores are not keeping pace with women’s.

    Yet you’ll note that the Supreme Court did not ban gender consciousness in college admissions. Nor did it ban legacy consciousness, wealth consciousness, geographic consciousness, or athletic consciousness. Race, and only race, is the thing the conservatives don’t want colleges and universities to look at. Because race is the card white people use that never gets declined. It is their most powerful characteristic, the one through which all else is possible.
     
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  20. 92gator

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    Nice work yall. 11 pages of libby melt down in one day.

    Almost sorry I missed the apparent fun.
     
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