Not discounting at all. Just being realistic about what his role would be. We didn't see Toney running many deep routes. Hawkins could turn out to more dangerous as any deep receiver on the team, just like Toney was.
Toney is the low ball (I know that's nuts to consider) compared how crazy fast Hawkins can be today in comparison to the unsuspecting defenses today. I want to see how we manage that deal.. Lol...
I cant recall but Demps was pretty thick/stout right? Not maurice jones drew thick but thicker than rainey and toney and hawkins
I saw him in person, granted this was years after he graduated, but while he was a bit shorter than me, he definitely still looked pretty ripped. When you are that fast and strong, even being short, you don't really need much wiggle. I always loved guys like Rainey and that kid from West Virginia who was from down here....that burst/speed mixed in with the incredible change of direction is always amazing to watch.
Yep, that's him. His high school highlights were phenomenal. I honestly thought he would be the next Barry Sanders....but Im an idiot.
Thank you for this. I have made this very same point, more than once. McElwain was a good recruiter and coach, and in his last two years at UF, he had upgraded his recruiting staff even more. Didn't he have the #1 ranked recruiting class when the proverbial sheet hit the fan? If not #1, it was close to it. People in Miami/South Florida were freaking out about this non-stop, how he was schooling the Cocanes, and we were cleaning up down there. All true. Mac inherited a horrible situation, because Muschamp-for all the blather on this board about what a great recruiter he was--absolutely sucked at recruiting offensive players, and really wasn't that good at defensive recruiting either. He was the worst. He didn't understand the concept of needing to score points. The fact that he won ANY games at all, was completely due to the talent Meyer left him. He was the worst UF coach since Doug Dickey. When Mac arrived, we couldn't field a full offensive line for our spring game. Think about that. Had Grier not screwed the pooch, I think Mac would have done quite well here, but when Grier left he had no QB, and the rest is history. Coaches in the business respect him a great deal; Saban sure does. Muschamp was the guy that sent our program down the drain--just like he did USCe-and the people that don't get that are clueless.
Mac had the worst offensive mind imaginable. His dimwit oc too. I could call the plays before they happened. He had some good things about him but he’s no leader much like the last guy.
I am of the belief that Mac got dealt a raw deal, and that firing him prematurely hurt our program badly. Had he been allowed to bring in his class of Chase and Corral, among others, we would have been way better off. That class could have won a natty, which is "forward thinking" in my book. Mullen didn't win 11 games his first two seasons with his players. When Mac's players left, we saw what happened to the smartest man in the room. Having said that, I am a Napier fan and will support him, but I don't believe in rainbows or unicorns. I have heard all the pre-accomplishment rosy scenarios waaaaay too many times Sooo.. with regard to your comment about how much better Napier is, I'll wait and see. I truly hope he is. It seems that premature e-chompulation not only plagues our opponents, it plagues us as well.
T That "worst offensive mind imaginable" landed him the OC job at Alabama where he torched an Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow led team in the SEC championship. He had no offensive talent at UF because of Chump. It's hard to move the ball when your roster- particularly your offensive line- is so depleted. If you don't have an O-line you won't succeed, period. And then there was the Grier, and then no QB problem. The undefeated Miami Dolphin's team had a tough defense, serviceable running backs and receivers, a backup quarterback, but one hell of an O-line. Their running backs ran through holes as big as a porn star's coochie. No one else needed to be great.
He had time and the line was still not good. His offense had to be brought out of the stone age at Alabama with new coordinators tha had fresf offenses.
I remember his 2nd year I saw that Pic of him in high school posted. And I thought, ohhhh that's the unathletic dweeb who hung around the jocks.
The class started to crumble before Mac got fired. And I’m not sure how he got a raw deal. He made some poor decisions that really back fired on him. Once it got to the point where he was getting chippy with the media and citing death threats, the program was in a free fall and we had no choice. I agree on Mullen. His lazy recruiting finally caught up with him. But he did get more out Mac’s guys than Mac did. There were other factors that led to his unraveling as well. There was a disconnect between him and the team coming into the 2020 season. At that point he just enjoyed the game planning & drawing plays up in the dirt while other aspects around the program started to go into decline.
Larry Csonka will agree about Langer, Little, and Kurchenberg, but you’re doing him a disservice with this post. Dude had a special helmet to cushion the blows to his head
