Supreme Court rejects affirmative action at colleges, says schools can’t consider race in admission

Not legal advice, but I would guess rational basis.

 

Yep, nobody complains about FAMU being 90% Black.

 

Even Thomas endorses bonus points for first-gen applicants, so an equal protection challenge would be DOA.

 

I'm not sure either. Seems to me that there are quite a few metrics which would be facially race-neutral and yet could be emphasized to move the needle significantly one way or the other in terms of the resulting racial makeup of the student population. If that's the case, I wonder whether schools who think racial diversity is important will simply adopt or focus on other metrics to get the racial diversity they think is important. If the numbers move significantly or if they don't move at all in light of this decision, it will be interesting to see if we just have continued litigation with parties arguing some other metric was a pretext and whether the courts are going to defer to schools so long as the metrics don't directly mention race on their face.

 

Not surprising.
When will they declare Trump the real winner?

Besides, folk of color and Injins have had it too good for too long by the Gov't. Paved a golden road to easy street for them people and they refuse to get on it!

 

White people would be underrepresented

 

Yeah there comes a point where you have to draw the line on borderline cases. There's certain standards we just know like race on its face or sex on its face, but some aren't so clear.

I believe I remember reading a case where a police department tried implementing height requirements after desegregating the police force based on sex. And I believe SCOTUS applied intermediate scrutiny. It wasn't sex-based on its face, but it was obvious what they were doing and it was to the point that almost all women were effectively ruled out. Might’ve been a hypothetical though, I don’t remember.

I don't think legacy admissions is a good comparison to that because the vast majority of White people aren't Harvard legacies.

 

Good. It was systematic racism against whites and Asians. Now it's time for Asians and whites to sue these racist universities. Class action lawsuit time.

 

Yeah, I get that. Your point about Asian students is particularly valid. Like I said, it was just a gut feeling ...

 

Probably. That falls to individual white people to not whine about it and get their grades and scores up. Generally speaking, that is what Asian people do, and as long as they do, they will be and should be overrepresented in the best schools.

 

How are test scores and GPA's vague?

 

Prepare for 90% Indian student bodies at the Ivies.

 

It’s been around long enough. Some groups need to start at home and emphasize education more. Besides, won’t schools still be able to consider whatever factors they want without saying so?

 

Don't you think you have to have some leeway for background, rather than going strictly by the numbers?

 

Presuming that the specific grades and scores are the best indicia of being "qualified". Whatever the prescribed indicia, those with resources (the ultimate merit metric), will make sure to meet that.

I say that without judgment. Our daughter had IMMENSE advantages over those with less. Maybe that meant she was also more qualified.

Emmitt Smith had a mediocre 40 time

 

Exactly. If someone (of any ethnicity) grew up in a poor, uneducated, single-parent home and graduated with grades and test scores just slightly lower than what my kids had ... that student deserves admission over mine.

 

I was referring to "merit" ... Is that what you want to limit 'merit' too? I think the athletics program might have a problem (even at Harvard, definitely UNC)!

 

I don't know how the admissions processes work in various schools. In addition to things like legacy status and students' relative advantages and disadvantages, another example I thought of when I read your post is studies indicating that employers have a racial bias in favor of applicants with traditionally "White" names and a bias against names they perceive as sounding "Black." This is the sort of bias that can exist even assuming the race of the applicant isn't identified on an application.

 

But the guys at Freakonomics will tell you that is the fault of Black people for their name choices, not racism