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Supreme Court rejects affirmative action at colleges, says schools can’t consider race in admission

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorGrowl, Jun 29, 2023.

  1. GatorGrowl

    GatorGrowl Forum Admin Moderator VIP Member

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    • The Supreme Court ruled that the affirmative action admission policies of Harvard and the University of North Carolina, which gave weight to a would-be student’s race, are unconstitutional.
    • The ruling is a massive blow to decades-old efforts to boost enrollment of racial minorities at American universities.
    • The court’s majority opinion said that both Harvard’s and UNC’s affirmative action programs “unavoidably employ race in a negative manner, involve racial stereotyping, and lack meaningful end points.”
    • Justice Sonia Sotomayor, in a sharp dissent to the opinion, said, “Today, this Court stands in the way and rolls back decades of precedent and momentous progress.”
    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/29/sup...-schools-cant-consider-race-in-admission.html
     
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  2. WC53

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    Just use poverty markers. Better metric if they wish.
     
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  3. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Perhaps we are moving closer to a country that does value equality.
     
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  4. BigCypressGator1981

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    LOL
     
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  5. magnetofsnatch

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    About time. Even in the original ruling O’Connor remarked this will need to be revisited.
     
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  6. GatorFanCF

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    “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in 2007, “is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” - Atlantic.

    Hear, hear.
     
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  7. GatorGrowl

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    The majority opinion by Chief Justice John Roberts, which all five of his fellow conservative justices joined in, said that both Harvard’s and UNC’s affirmative action programs “unavoidably employ race in a negative manner, involve racial stereotyping, and lack meaningful end points.”
     
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  8. magnetofsnatch

    magnetofsnatch Rudy Ray Moore’s Idol Premium Member

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    Uh bingo.
     
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  10. mrhansduck

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    Have not read the opinions but did see they declined to apply the ruling to military academies at least for now. I wonder what the interests may be there that could survive strict scrutiny. They also ruled that applicants will be permitted to reference their race in terms of inspiration, overcoming adversity, etc. Will be interesting to read the details and also see how admissions numbers play out in coming years.
     
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  12. Gator715

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    A far more justifiable factor in my opinion.

    This was eventually going to happen. The only question is whether this was premature.

    The longer affirmative action was around, the less likely it was to survive Constitutional scrutiny.
     
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  13. OklahomaGator

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    Will the ruling extend beyond college admissions, for example job hiring practices? In Oklahoma you see Indian tribes that put in their ads for suppliers, contractors, even hiring that "Indian preference will be observed."
     
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  14. uftaipan

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    Good news. The 14th Amendment needs to mean something all of the time to everyone, not just when it’s convenient here and there. The most glaring injustice in this was faced by Americans of East Asian descent. Schools would treat them like the grades and scores they earned were somehow “unfair” and needed to be “handicapped” in some way. As stated above, I have no problem with considering bonafide poverty in admissions.
     
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  15. wgbgator

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    College is for white people, wars are for racial minorities
     
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  16. uftaipan

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    I think and hope so. Brown v. Board of Education only dealt with school segregation but ultimately and rightly led to the abolishment of all other forms of legal segregation as well.
     
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    You would think not. Don't tribal nations have some form of autonomy?
     
  18. Gator715

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    Not ALL, but I get your point.

    This is the tip of the iceberg and more changes will be coming in the coming years, some quicker than others.
     
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  19. channingcrowderhungry

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    From a constitutional interpretation perspective I think this is the right answer and the correct ruling.

    But the folks saying this is a win for equality are also cheering on the gutting of public schools, where most minorities have the best chance to better their standing in life. So I don't understand ya'll.
     
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