So you admit that the job of LE is a violent one. Then you’re surprised when the job gets violent. Nice take .
I'm not surprised, that's why I'm team abolition, not some lib who thinks cops can be reformed by sensitivity training or whatever.
Had this convo with my daughter just this weekend... Look at all the buildings we've built...planes in the sky, ships at sea, trains to move extraordinary amounts of materials, electric lights, telephones, cell phones, roads, computers, clothes, stores, houses, on and on... We stand alone amongst the millions of species on this planet, as the most capable, intelligent, constructive, productive, destructive and transformative on the planet... ...without anything resembling a peer. We are unique and speecial among the species. It comes with responsibility. The evil members of our species represent those who crumble at the challenge posed by such responsibility.
People post on talk forums every day and actually look forward to attacking others. And this is actually "enjoyment" for them! I've never understood that. Not the same as what was described in the OP but the concept of hurting other people is the same. Why?
Quit failing at logic Bluke and take a lap. I'm exiting this nonsensical back-n-forth and look forward to the next interaction. Have a happy 4th.
It’s tough when our species lacks a common goal. Good talk though. You seem like a good dude and a good dad.
It’s a job that with the potential for violent encounters. That’s not the same as “the desire to hurt people for enjoyment” which is the question you were responding to.
Yes, I wonder why that draws in so many people who enjoy violence and telling people what to do or else. Police are the violence, arent they? Who makes the encounter violent in many cases?
You don’t get out much. These cops who lose control probably create a pattern of history with certain people and certain neighborhoods. I doubt that bad cops just flip a switch one day on a random person. There is very likely a history between the citizen and the cops. Does not make it right in any case.
I think the problem here is that you see violence as some kind of shocking act where a cop goes dirty harry and blasts some no good punk for looking at him funny. Putting someone in cuffs and forcing them to the ground is not shocking to anyone, but its a violent act nonetheless. If you are willing to do that sort of thing to some homeless guy who stole gum from a store or is standing in the wrong place, then I think that speaks to someone's mentality. I think lots of cops that arent trigger happy do get off on that sort of thing, the control, the dominance over others - and clearly some take it even further as in the case of the OP. If they didnt go into it for that, they learn to enjoy it, because why else would someone keep being a cop? The job is using violence to maintain control.
I disagree with the thought that we are all like my boy Rust Cohle thinks, but since he is my favorite tv character, probably ever, I'll just agree with your usage of "True Detecive (S1)" in this thread. Old Rust is one of the most quotable dudes ever. I've watched that short & perfect season at least four times over the years. So freakin good. No idea why the last two seasons weren't close to as good.
It’s all true how you put that. How else would you do the job non-violently? It certainly speaks to a mentality, but that’s why it’s unsurprising why sometimes these guys lose composure. The perps bother me as much as the bad police. The police seem to upset you more so.
For my money - arguably the best writing I've seen on a series and Rust and Martys characters are incredible. That opeaning scene I'm talking about has resonated with me for years and, I must say, I find common cause with Rusts sentiments.
