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Kirby entering the Urban Phase (Blistering AJC Investigation II)

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by swampspring, Jun 28, 2023.

  1. swampspring

    swampspring GC Legend

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    and I'm not just talking championships:

    UGA football program rallies when players accused of abusing women (ajc.com)

    Georgia Bulldogs hit with disgusting allegations (thecomeback.com)

    “When a top defensive player was jailed on a rape charge, head coach Kirby Smart let eight players go to court to seek their teammate’s release, the player’s lawyer said. This show of solidarity occurred even though the alleged victim worked part time for the football program,” the AJC reported on Wednesday.

    “A player charged with recording a sex act with an unconscious woman remained on the roster for a full season until he transferred. Others have stayed with the team while accused of transgressions that ranged from threatening or attacking their girlfriends to sexual assault.”

    According to the AJC’s report, the detective investigating the sexual assault allegation referred to Georgia as “my beloved Bulldogs” during an interrogation with Jarrett at the Athens police headquarters.

    Give the GPD and the UFPD credit, they don't give the players any leeway.
     
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  2. Claygator

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    Given that our players had consequences for their actions, I don't understand your need to drag Urban into this. UF has never tolerated anything like what is going on at UGA, and our athletic department never intervened to pay fines for players, or to try to influence criminal investigations.
     
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  3. swampspring

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    Did you read my last line: "Give the GPD and the UFPD credit, they don't give the players any leeway."
     
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  4. hawaiigator

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  5. grant1

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    Urbie's players got into lot's of trouble, there is that similarity. When does Kirby start with the esophogus spasms?
     
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  6. ETGator

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    Beyond disgusting . . . and it's not just Bowl Cut and his "fixer." The police, the DA's office and the university are all part of rampant win-at-all-costs corruption in Athens.

    In case after case, the newspaper found, strong on-field performance appears to excuse bad off-field behavior.

    The Journal-Constitution identified 11 players during Smart’s tenure who remained with the team after women reported violent encounters to the police, to the university, or to both. In some instances, particularly those involving domestic violence, the police either filed no charges or prosecutors allowed players to plead guilty to lesser charges.

    The exact number of accusations involving Georgia players is unknown. Many cases result in no police investigation, but rather are handled through a confidential campus disciplinary system.

    The newspaper’s findings echo its recent report detailing how the team’s permissive culture has enabled dangerous, often lawless behavior by its players: reckless driving, street racing, drunken driving and excessive speeding, among other offenses.
     
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  7. swampspring

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    When the AJC is reporting it, I don't think they can just sweep it under the rug. But if there is one team/athletic culture that can get away with it, I have my faith in Georgia to pull it off.
     
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  8. ETGator

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    With it being another AJC investigative article, it will hopefully resonate and be cited a lot more. Georgia has Athens locked-up but the rest of the country aren't LegHumpers. The "university" and police better be careful of Federal Court lawsuits. "Pattern and practice" . . .
     
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  9. Claygator

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    I did read that; but bringing up Urban's name raised certain implications.

    The GPD and UFPD are not the athletic department; they are separate entities, which is why I commented on the fact that our athletic department would never have intervened in such a fashion in their investigations.
     
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  10. CHFG8R

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    Whatever. They won't do crap. It's pro ball now and UGaBama is a cash cow.

    Hey, did I just invent a new word?
     
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  11. CHFG8R

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    Yeah, but the state is.
     
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  12. swampspring

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    I understand that. Urban is also not the athletic department. However, during his tenure as coach he had over 30 players arrested. The comment was made as a reference to how he ran his program, and why it was in the shape it was during the end of his tenure.
     
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  13. CHFG8R

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    Never, because he's already at his Ohio State.
     
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  14. 06GATORS08

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    Can't wait for the Netflix documentary taking them to task in about 15 years.
     
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  15. RattlerGator

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    It was a "journalistic" trick to go on and on about our arrests. It bothers me still. You simply can't get 125 young males together and not have arrests, especially when you're in a mega-state like Florida and the University police department is trying to dot their i's and cross their t's. I ain't mad at 'em but damn if I'm going to criticize Urban for that shiznit.

    People talk *way* too much yang about Urban and his tenure here.
     
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  16. WillyGator01

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    OK, comparing this to the Urban era is far-fetched. Let's stick to the issue. UGA is under fire, and it is only a matter of time before their "win above everything else" atiitude results into a crumbling of the program. Give it a couple of years...
     
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  17. ETGator

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    I don't understand what you mean.
     
  18. Claygator

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    Urban worked for the UAA, so he was, in effect, the athletic department. Urban never interfered with police investigations into our players, nor did he have UAA staff or other players try to interfere. UGA is clearly doing both.

    You also note that the GPD and UFPD were aggressive in arresting UF players. It would stand to reason that there would be more arrests here, given the disparity in law enforcement attitudes. And many of those arrests were for silly things, certainly not rapes.

    Neither UF, the UAA, nor Urban Meyer, ever acted in the manner in which UGA is acting, and comparing us to them is straight up misleading.
     
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  19. 2oldgator

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    I think it is a fair comparison as far as Kirby has had tremendous success and now the warts are beginning to show. Very much like what happened with UF under Urban Meyer.
    I, for one, had no idea that the culture was going to a bad, bad place with Meyer at first. I found out more about the crap that was going on AFTER he left.
    Yes, I think UGA will have the Athen’s PD, the press, and anyone connected to, or fans of, UGA football running interference for them and that seems to happen on a lot of stages nowadays.
    I’m not “dragging” Meyer into it, but it sure seems like Smart is getting very similar results with a lot of 5* recruits that aren’t 5* human beings.
     
  20. Crusher

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    The last time UGa tried to cover up a litany of much less corrupt behavior, it got skull-drug by Jan Kemp in court. Hopefully a similarly courageous person can emerge in the current situation.
     
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