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RFK Jr.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Jun 20, 2023.

  1. rivergator

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    “All these people ought to be thankful to him. He developed a non MNRA vaccine.”

    Assuming we’re depopulation advocates.
     
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  6. 96Gatorcise

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    He is most likely on a regimen of HRT and peptides. Which is great more people should be optimizing their health. But it's not a magic pill. You still have to put in the work. Which it definitely looks like he has
     
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    roids
     
  8. duggers_dad

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    I remember when steroids were the going death wish. Now it’s mRNA injections.
     
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    I wondered what he might be taking. Not sure what he looked like when he was younger, but most people don't hit their muscular peak in their late 60's. If he is taking steroids or hormones or whatever, I suppose he's not worried about any health risks with those.
     
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    Being in the fitness and health field I can tell you it's not roids.
    A proper, Dr monitored HRT program and the consistency of training will get you a physique like his. That body didn't happen overnight.
     
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    First of all for 70 years old that is impressive on any account. Having said that for that level of physique the number of push-ups and the bench incline he was doing wasn’t that impressive.
     
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    Don't know much about either, although the potential side effects seems like they can be similar?

    Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) and Its Benefits for Men

    Risks associated with HRT for men include:
    • Sleep apnea: a potentially threatening sleep problem when breathing often stops and resumes, is getting worse.
    • Causing skin responses like acne.
    • Stimulating the progression of prostate cancer that already exists as well as benign prostatic hyperplasia, the expansion of the prostate gland.
    • Increasing chest size
    • Preventing sperm from being produced or making testicles atrophy.
    • This raises the possibility of a blood clot forming by overly stimulating the production of red blood cells. It is possible for a clot to become free, travel through the circulation, and then settle in the lungs, obstructing blood flow (pulmonary embolism).
    • Additionally, some sources indicate that HRT for men may make you more susceptible to heart problems.
     
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    There are side effects to everything. But a Dr monitored program is very safe and far better than being a decrepit old man.
    I have been involved in the field for over a decade and have personally seen lives changed by HRT for both men and women.
     
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    He's definitely on HRT, but I highly doubt he's cycling roids. Based on the videos, I'd say he's doing it right by not using heavier weights. (joints will hate you that late in life, also much more injury-prone with higher weights). I'd say the push-ups were done after a full upper body workout, which is why he fatigued so quickly. Happy for him. If you'd told me that guy was a heroin addict for much of his prime, I would tell you no way.
     
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    Yeah, main sides are high hematocrit and infertility. Most good HRT docs will monitor your hematocrit religiously to make sure you're not in the danger zone and also most HRT docs are very forward about the infertility thing. I'm guessing Bobby doesn't care too much about the latter. Probably watches his labs like a hawk.
     
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    I have to laugh, people will take most anything their Dr prescribes without thought but mention HRT or peptides and they worry about the side effects.

    HRT has been studied far more thoroughly than the COVID shots. Not looking to start an argument just pointing out a fact.
     
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    If he is listening to a doctor and being monitored, I have no reason to second guess whatever they're doing. Not really my business anyway, and I have no opinion about HRT. I do out of curiosity wonder whether and to what extent patients who are distrustful of medical consensus and pharma and who do their own research are likely to defer to a doctor on issues other than vaccines. RFK, Jr., was anti-vaccination way before Covid and with respect to vaccines that were around much longer. I can and do separate the issue of vaccines from whatever hormones or other treatments he may be taking.
     
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    There is nothing radical about his views on vaccines. In his recent NY Post interview …

    “I am not and have never been anti-vaccine. I’ve always said that I’m for safe vaccines and robust science and for regulatory agencies that are free from conflicts of interest and financial entanglements with the pharmaceutical industry. In terms of being a conspiracy theorist, tell me where I got it wrong. Show me something I’ve said that you believe to be factually wrong or unsupported by evidence.”

    FYI: I’m unabashedly anti-vaccine. Which is why you won’t find me running for POTUS.
     
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    Seems like he's saying he's not theoretically opposed to vaccines so long as they're safe and don't involve financial conflicts of interest. I haven't followed him closely. I wonder if there any vaccines around the world that have ever met his test? I tried to find a list of vaccines which he may endorse but didn't see anything come up.

    With respect to where he's been wrong, many have cited his claims which are specific to autism. I don't understand the purported evidence well enough to argue about it, but his position appears to be well outside of the mainstream.
     
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    Well, you’re asking someone who believes there is nothing to vaccinate for. So RFK Jr. is at least in one respect too timid for me.

    Many in my cohort have urged him to squarely face the existential question (do viruses exist ?) but apart from nibbling around the edges, he’s elected to play it safe. On that count we’ve reminded him that he’s already widely regarded as a crackpot.

    I did recently post 212 excerpts from papers purporting to show at least an association between vaccines and autism. And almost everyone concedes that vaccines CAN be harmful.

    But back to RFK Jr, attacks on him are just confirmation of his criticism of medical malfeasance and corruption.