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Baseball vs LSU, Mon 6/26, 7:00 pm EDT

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  1. 92gator

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    I highly doubt it. LSU can't afford to go down early at all, given the cosmic shift in the mojoshere that occurred yesterday (momentum shift, if you're itchy about superstition).

    They know all too keenly that the slightest hint of picking up where we left off, will result in just that.

    Hence I'd be shocked if they start anyone but Skenes.
     
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  2. 74nole

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    I don’t know that I can speak for being “wise in the ways of science” but I’ve got a lifetime of exposure/experience with the game.

    That said, from my experiences in high stress games on short rest you can expect the rush of adrenaline to kick in and keep your velo up for 15-20 pitches before it starts to wear off. At that point normally you see velocities drop a few ticks as well as the body tires making it harder to maintain the body control necessary to duplicate your proper and true mechanics.

    Usually as your mechanics deteriorate you become a little less in control of your command. In your first 15-20 pitches you can see the normal breaking pitches and then as the arm and legs begin to tire the breaking pitches can get a little “loopy”.

    There’s an old saying that I have always believed in that has time and again proven itself true.

    “There’s only so many bad pitches (mechanically) in a good arm—then it’s a bad arm”……

    I’ll stop there.
     
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  3. rglass1

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    I’m in the same boat. I’ve heard we are home team again tonight and back in the 3rd base dugout but haven’t seen it confirmed anywhere.
     
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  4. malscott

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    It's hard not to be excited after yesterday's hitting clinic by the good guys. The bats came alive at the right time-the dust has been brushed off! May the hits continue.;)

    Now scrambling to kill 6 hours before the game so me brain doesn't implode.o_O:eek:

    Go Gators:D
     
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  5. gatorranger7

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    What is the "risk to his future" stuff? If he had some lifetime-event catastrophic ligament destruction, etc? In that case, the risk is miniscule.
     
  6. 74nole

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    I guess that’s open to interpretation but I will have to say (even with current knowledge/technology of today) that I would have a hard time understanding catastrophic ligament destruction and minuscule in the same sentence or thought.
     
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  7. iowagator

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    We are home. Section 116 and thereabouts.
     
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  8. GatorRade

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    To be honest, I don’t know how the current standards for pitcher use have evolved. However, I do know that throwing a dude a ton 4 days after he threw 120 pitches is not the standard, and going against a standard puts the coach as the responsible party for any negative outcomes.
     
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  9. GatorChoice

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    College pitchers normally work on 6 days rest. The pitcher in question’s last start was on 4 days rest and this would be on 3.
     
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  10. ocalaman

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    No matter what LSU does on the mound, we have to heed the advice of Bachman-Turner Overdrive and just be "Taking Care of Business".
     
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  11. paidinfull

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    He was throwing on Saturday for sure. Maybe just a bullpen session, but it was at a point when we were needing to bring in a new pitcher pretty soon. We’ve sat above our bullpen Sat, Sun, and will be above our pen again today. I didnt look in our pen much yesterday after Waldrep was taken out, so don’t remember if he got up or not.
     
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  12. 74nole

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    Don’t know anything about the status of Abner—hopefully he is available today if needed.

    It should go without saying that Purnell and Fic stood strong and held the line yesterday. Tip of the cap to them both, really big differences in yesterday’s game outcome.
     
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  13. 06GATORS08

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    Well, I'm nervous as all get out.
     
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  14. paidinfull

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    No doubt. Those guys came up huge for us. Gave up one run, let the rest of our pen rest.
     
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  15. gatorstevelp

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    Agree! What is your experience, on most guys, as far as velo during their bullpen sessions? Are they at max velo normally?
    My high school pitchers I normally had them around 80% over 30 pitches but wasn’t sure about college and pros.
     
  16. VAg8r1

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    I seriously hope that Skenes doesn't start. While MLB and college baseball are different games it's not that unusual for an MLB team to use it's ace in the seventh game of a World Series even after only two or three days rest. Frankly, Skenes scares the hell out of me. He's a generational talent and could be playing in the majors next year.
     
  17. 74nole

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    We normally geared towards 75-80% on the arm with 100% on leg drive and follow through with the back. And after full stretch routine, warm up throwing around 30 pitches was normal.
     
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  18. audiogatorjim

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    My son in law pitched for Davidson. He basically said after less than optimum rest, a pitcher can throw the ball but the arm muscles have not gotten to normal and the pitch repertoire is not possible; in short, you are tired. He said his coaches NEVER allowed someone to pitch without the proper rest.
    If I were a coach, I wouldn’t pitch him because of:
    Long term injury
    You have other pitchers
    Bad message to team “You know we can’t win without him.”
     
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  19. GatorRade

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    A few years ago, I remember a college coach (Sully I assume) explaining his advice for when his batters fall behind 0-2: They still need to throw a strike to get you out. This is true for Skenes too. No matter how great he is, he still needs to throw it across the plate to get outs.
     
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  20. fox

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    Gators suffer letdown, win 22-4.

    Seriously though I would love to know if corndogs were subdued in the locker room after the game yesterday or throwing bats and chairs and screaming at each other.
     
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