V-Lo & radar guns

Anyone else catch Ben McDonald discussing this over weekend on xm?

Ive never been sold on "everyone throws 100 now" and he confirmed my suspicions.

Basically todays guns pick up ball right out of Ps hand. In Bens era the guns picked up ball about half way. And in Nolan Ryans era it was when ball crossed plate.

Per science/Ben, ball will lose 9-10 mph from time released until time it crosses plate.

He mentioned Ryan still has highest mph on ball as it crossed plate at 101. And he would basically be sitting at 110-111 on todays guns..lol

So if wanting to compare guys today to ones before them subtract 5-10 mph, pending which era youre comparing.

This also explains why the same pitcher can throw 5-7 mph harder depending the venue.. I guess some still use the older model guns.

 

I also dont buy a lot of the stat track numbers,, but a diffrent discussion..lol

 

He mentioned the new guns are called the 'Stalker'. Im wondering/guessing if they arent in conjuction w/ all the new stat tracker technology now. Picks up ball as soon as leaves hand/bats..??

The tv boys are facisnated w/ saying the mph every pitch, even though its also on screen every pitch. .. I guess Big Ben wsant buying it.

You should here Jim Palmers opinion/discrediting of stat tracker numbers during Os games..lol He refuses to buy todays guys better than his era.. and I tend to agree

 

Big Ben was tutored in the booth by Lynn Rollins(one of the best imo). Where he picked up a lot of his sayings/descriptions. aka country-isms...lol

 

Rollins was doing a lot of AU home games on app this year before he was sidelined.. and still was doing LSU as well.. Not sure the dynamics there, but not complaining. Guess hes more of a 'free agent' now..??

One of funniest in game discusions Ive ever heard,, was when Jim Palmer mentioned hes never eaten a chicken wing, and Bens questioning of this.

 

4-5 from 5-10 years ago yeah(half way to plate).. In 70s early 80s.. closer to the 10..per what he was saying.

it either loses 10 mph or it doesnt.. I assume he verified the science before advertising it..lol

 

He did also mention there are 2 types of stalker guns now, but never said the difference.

I agree would like to see it all for myself, but if im going to trust anyone on it hes near the top.

And yeah a lot of these stats now dont fly w/ me.

This is just my theory on pitchers v-lo.. but ive noticed these guys also dont seem to be losing much v-lo after 100 pitches in either.. Im wondering if that has something to do w/ how the mph is tracked now also. Would the ball come out of hand at same speed when tired, but not have the same vlo halfway there as when not tired??

I know todays guy bigger stronger, etc, but also know what throwing 100 pitches over 2 hours makes your arm feel like...lol

 

More of them now.. but hardest throwers now not harder than hardest throwers 40 years ago IMO.

Im confident Ryan hit 101 on a gun that tracked as crossed plate(only gunjs they had).. What that registers on todays gun, I can only take what I heard.. and if anyone other than McDonald said it I wouldnt of given it much credence.

Did Ben make up the science of ball losing 9-10 mph before it gets to plate? no idea but doubtful. That alone w/ explanation of when each gun picks up ball makes the numbers add up IMO. half way there 5 mph slower. all the way there 10 mph slower.

 

But I do agree Nolan wasnt throwing 111. he was throwing 101..lol

Why I dont buy every other guy today hitting 100,,bc in reality they aint.

 

No idea.. but Im sure there are older guns still around they could use on todays guys that give same answer. Lets see if anyone is maintaining 100 mph at plate

I have no problem accepting that Ryan was a freak of nature though. Maybe even more so than the science of it all..lol

JR Richard, Gibson, Feller all up there too from the way back eras.

 

I havent read through all of this yet, but some interesting stuff. Appears Ryan has thrown fastest pitch ever regardless of gun used.

Fastest Pitchers Ever Recorded in the Major Leagues - 2014 post-season UPDATES thru 10/27 (efastball.com)

From the article..
Consider this. As the balls crossed the plate, Chapman's was traveling 96.5 mph, Bob Feller's was at 98.6 mph, and Nolan Ryan's was still moving at an astonishing 99.1 mph.