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Submersible Titanic Tourist craft goes missing

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Jun 19, 2023.

  1. phatGator

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    I understand your scenario, but I think one important factor is that the fuel in this case would be soaking wet. The body is 90% water to begin with. Think about throwing a wet log into a fire and how long it takes to get going.
     
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  2. antny1

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    That's better I guess. No chance for a slow death with a compromised vessel at that depth.
     
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  3. Spurffelbow833

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    Something tells me that supercompressed oxygen and human bodies would explode spontaneously, even if only a nanosecond before the water could cover them.
     
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  5. GatorJMDZ

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    That was different, that was rapid decompression. We are talking about extremely rapid compression.
     
  6. phatGator

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    As I mentioned above, you have to consider the fuel (body) is mostly water.
     
  7. tampagtr

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    I did read somewhere that there was also intense heat at the moment
     
  8. BigCypressGator1981

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    Exactly. A million tiny pieces. Fish food long before the surface.
     
  9. tampagtr

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    Read something like this, but from a more reputable source

     
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  10. AndyGator

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    Anything ASW is always top secret.
     
  11. uftaipan

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    I would have held that information, too. The Navy was reasonably sure the sound was associated with the submersible imploding, but there was no way to be sure. What if it was an unrelated event and you put out word that discouraged continued search? Waiting until after a debris field was discovered was the correct call in my opinion.
     
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  12. WC53

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    Yellow submarine meme
     
  13. BigCypressGator1981

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    I’m just still amazed that a craft the size of a minivan popped at the bottom of the ocean 435 miles from shore and our navy knew about it.
     
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  14. phatGator

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    I haven’t done the calculations to see if that statement is true or not, but I chuckled that your “more reputable source” is someone named “gayassnegro.”
     
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  15. tampagtr

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    Acknowledged. I swear I saw it from a solid source
     
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  16. uftaipan

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    I’ve read that the means is classified, but that would not surprise me. We are very interested in the location of Russian submarines these days.
     
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  17. BigCypressGator1981

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    Well color me impressed. I didn’t know that tech that sensitive existed.
     
  18. WarDamnGator

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    I read one article that said “underwater microphones used to listen for Enemy subs”… while that may be speculation on part of writer, as I’m sure it is classified, they probably do have listening devices laid in a dense enough grid to hear almost anything, and even triangulate positions. Plus, the physics of sounds traveling in water, where the molecules are densely packed together compared to air, explosions can travel for 100s of miles… and some say 1000s of miles under the right circumstances.
     
  19. ElimiGator

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    There was a micro ignition of sorts. You can bet on that! I see this when I fire a high powered pellet gun. There’s a micro flash at the end of the barrel when the pellet hits the wall of air outside the barrel. I am geeking out here and wish I remembered my science terms a little better.

    A retired submariner mentioned this in a post somewhere else:
    “When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second. A modern nuclear submarine’s hull radius is about 20 feet. So the time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.

    A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

    The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors. When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine. The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

    Sounds gruesome but as a submariner I always wished for a quick hull-collapse death over a lengthy one like some of the crew on Kursk endured.”
     
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  20. ElimiGator

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    Very old technology believe it or not. You invent something to hide you and I’ll invent something to find you.
     
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