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Submersible Titanic Tourist craft goes missing

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Jun 19, 2023.

  1. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

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    And he followed it up with this:

     
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  2. Trickster

    Trickster VIP Member

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    You're an interesting fellow. I promise not to give you shit anymore about your politics.:D
     
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  3. BigCypressGator1981

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    That’s a long way to float without becoming fish food.
     
  4. BigCypressGator1981

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    LOL! Billionaire faked his own death to collect insurance payouts. This guy is about as bright as the Mariana Trench.
     
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  5. Spurffelbow833

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    I've seen pictures of what was left of one of them. Good lord. And that was only 9 atmospheres.
     
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  6. jeffbrig

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    I hate to be the guy that says this, but there's probably nothing left to float the surface. Pressure at 12k feet is something like 6000 psi. A sudden decompression/implosion of the pressure vessel...
     
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  7. AndyGator

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    Thanks! Now I don't have to be that guy.
     
  8. lacuna

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    Titanic | The National Archives

    After a visit to their native Germany, Isidor and Ida were travelling back to the United States with Ida’s recently-appointed maid, Ellen Bird, and Isidor’s manservant, John Farthing. Though the Straus’s usually travelled on German vessels, the lure of the newly-commissioned Titanic and all the luxury she could offer probably proved too much of a temptation for the journey home. On the night of 14 April, after Titanic had hit the iceberg, Isidor and Ida were directed to lifeboat eight. However, the ageing Isidor refused to board the lifeboat while there were younger men being prevented from boarding. Ida also refused to get into the lifeboat saying, ‘Where you go, I go’. Her maid Ellen was put into the lifeboat and Ida gave Ellen her fur coat, saying she had no further use for it.

    Isidor and Ida were last seen together on deck holding hands before a wave swept them both into the sea. Isidor’s body was recovered by the Mackay-Bennett and he was buried in New York’s Woodlawn Cemetery. Ida’s body was never recovered. Ellen Bird survived Titanic and died in 1949. John Farthing was lost with the ship and his body was never recovered.
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    A memorial to the Isidor and Ida is located at the intersection of Broadway and West End Ave.

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  9. 96Gatorcise

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    Due to the pressure crushing all the air filled cavities , there is no buoyancy to float.
     
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  10. Gatorrick22

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    In the related submersible article I posted that verbal communication from the deepest part (The Challenger Deep) of the ocean to the surface is possible. Look at this short video below.

     
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  11. BigCypressGator1981

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    “Pressure Drop” is such a killer name for a boat carrying extreme deep sea submersibles.

     
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  12. Shade45

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    The 19 year old didn't want to go on the sub.


    The older sister of Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood feels "absolutely heartbroken" that her brother and her 19-year-old nephew were aboard the Titan vessel.
    Azmeh claimed that her nephew did not want to go on the submarine but agreed to take part in the expedition because it was important to his father, a lifelong Titanic obsessive. Suleman "wasn't very up for it" and "terrified," she claimed, explaining that the 19-year-old expressed his concerns to another family member.

    "If you gave me a million dollars, I would not have gotten into the Titan," she said.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/missing-titanic-submersible-live-updates-rcna90538
     
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  13. BLING

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    Probably depends on how deep they were and how violent the “implosion” of the vessel was. If the vessel imploded at nearly full depth, there wouldn’t be much left of the humans inside. Buoyancy would be more or less irrelevant as the bodies wouldn’t be intact in any recognizable way. Maybe if it came apart much earlier in the dive it wouldn’t have been as violent? Who knows.

    Theoretically there could have been 100% intact remains on the Titanic, as it reached the depths much more gradually (no violent “implosion”, the pressures would equalize, including any human remains). There probably were human remains in and around the Titanic wreckage initially. But after only being discovered in the 80’s I guess none were ever actually found.
     
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  14. Sohogator

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    Free speech is often loathsome.
     
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  16. GatorJMDZ

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    The bodies will generate gasses, they will float. That's why criminal weigh bodies down when disposing of them.

    The bodies aren't going to explode, that's what would happen in the vacuum of space, not at depth.
     
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  17. gatordavisl

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    Nice! It's pre-reggae, so how would one classify it? Ska? There are no horns. Rocksteady?
     
  18. 96Gatorcise

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    Not at that depth. The pressure will evacuate any air or gas and replace it with water.
    Bodies are weighted so they sink from the surface down. At 2 1/2 miles down the body wouldn't and couldn't create enough buoyancy to float to the surface.
     
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  20. GatorJMDZ

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    Most people are positively buoyant, that's why you wear weight when you SCUBA dive. That is especially true of people with a lot of body fat. Simply evacuating the lung air wouldn't be enough. You have the reason bodies are weighted exactly backwards. Bodies are weighted to keep from floating back up after the bacteria starts doing it's thing.

    "Corpses that have a watery grave will begin to float within a week's time. Here's why:

    The density of the human body is similar to the density of water, and what keeps us floating--other than the dog paddle--is the air in our lungs.

    A corpse begins to sink as the air in its lungs is replaced by water.

    But when any organism dies, it goes through putrefication--the series of chemical, physical and biological changes that end up returning the body to the food chain.

    And when a body dies, the bacteria that normally live in the digestive system continue to feed on the proteins and sugar in the body's soft tissues, and to excrete gasses including carbon dioxide, ammonia, hydrogen and methane. As these gasses accumulate in the body's cavities, the corpse begins to rise to the surface of the water."

    Why Do Corpses Float? | A Moment of Science - Indiana Public Media