Submersible Titanic Tourist craft goes missing

No clue how the physics would work. I’d assume at those pressures if it had a small breach it would get crushed down into nothing?

Maybe if it had multiple failure points or the carbon fiber separated, maybe then it comes apart and becomes more of a debris field than a crushed tin can. If it scattered rather than “crushed” the bodies might be more intact, not that it would matter.

 

Agree, I’ve just been ignoring those posts. It’s not even religion for me, just basic decency.

 

Debris field could be a purposely loose term too. Their way of preparing the public for the ultimate news, instead of saying “we found the ship crushed to the point we can’t even identify any passengers”.
But the fact they announced it at all is fairly telling probably. There has to be all kinds of stuff down there to be evaluated.

 

I would guess... but also, most everything would sink, not float. I'm just guessing though...

 

Agree. It could be just a few pieces of plastic floating together is what they're calling a "debris field".

 

Thats a fair judgement 92. My gif was to illustrate my true feelings when reading the post. Trying not to see humor, yet still seeing it. Like the guy in the gif.

I dont find the situation funny, but the comment actually was.

I think a person can do both.

But apologies if my post offended. Not my intent.

I deleted the gif.

 

I remember watching a video about planes unfurling a 6 mile long antenna to transmit to subs below, but near, the surface. A commercial satellite penetrating that much water does not pass the smell test to me, at all.

 

Fair. I deleted my gif responding to the jokes. I think that when something happens and none of us are close to the situation sometimes humans cope with humor. I dont think the posters using the silly puns meant disrespect or harm.

 

The debris field might be the titanium caps on either end of the sub. Those would likely remain unchanged even at that depth.

 

meh. Levity is a very common method to deal with tragedy. Y’all need to lighten up.

 

yessir

 

Dude, we all live in those "machine-battery-pods" that NEO escaped from anyway.

Welcome - To the REAL WORLD.

I'm beginning to agree with those really smart scientists that say we are nothing but holographic images spinning around a black hole.

 

Does not have to be metal, FRP or heavy materials, certain components of that vessel are probably boyant and would float to the surface. (guessing of course) - not sure if the debris field is on the surface or on the bottom.

 

An implosion is always followed by an explosion.

 

The U.S. Coast Guard, which has led the search for the Titan, has not detailed the expense involved. But an operation of this magnitude could run well into the millions of dollars between costs for fuel, personnel and maintenance.

The company that owns Titan, OceanGate, will not be responsible for reimbursing the government, said Paul Zukunft, who led the Coast Guard from 2014 to 2018.

“It’s no different than if a private citizen goes out and his boat sinks,” he said. “We go out and recover him. We don’t stick them with the bill after the fact.”

WaPo

 

I fully understand why you feel that way. But I would ask that you don’t judge too harshly. I have for over 24 years now been in a profession (military aviation) where death or serious injury by mishap has been a constant companion, an inextricable part of the culture. Dark humor, some of which you see here, is a psychological coping tool for some. I include myself in that category. I have been guilty of some “too soon” comments in my day. And probably some people took my comments as harsh or inappropriate, but we all have ways of dealing with what we’re going through and that was mine. Very important, in my opinion, that we let people navigate such feelings in their own way. Anyone who truly didn’t care about what was happening with those poor people wouldn’t bother to read this thread, much less to post.

 

That is true. There was lots of air on board, much of it compressed. It all had to escape if that’s what happened.

 

Project Sanguine is an interesting read. Not sure what is used now. From Wiki

Project Sanguine was a U.S. Navy project, proposed in 1968 for communication with submerged submarines using extremely low frequency (ELF) radio waves. The originally proposed system, hardened to survive a nuclear attack, would have required a giant antenna covering two fifths of the state of Wisconsin. Because of protests and potential environmental impact, the proposed system was never implemented. A smaller, less hardened system called Project ELF consisting of two linked ELF transmitters located at Clam Lake, Wisconsin 46°05′05.6″N 90°55′03.7″W and Republic, Michigan 46°20′10.1″N 87°53′04.6″W was built beginning in 1982 and operated from 1989 until 2004. The system transmitted at a frequency of 76 Hz. At ELF frequencies the bandwidth of the transmission is very small, so the system could only send short coded text messages at a very low data rate. These signals were used to summon specific vessels to the surface to receive longer operational orders by ordinary radio or satellite communication.

Proposed system[edit]
The originally proposed system would have had a giant antenna consisting of 6,000 miles (9,700 km) of buried cables in a rectangular grid covering 22,500 square miles (58,000 km2), two fifths of the state of Wisconsin,[1] powered by 100 underground power plants in concrete bunkers.[2][3] The cables were grounded at their ends, and loops of AC electric current flowed deep in the ground between the ends of the cable, generating ELF waves; this is called a ground dipole. The original design was projected to cost billions[4] and consume 800 megawatts of power.[1][5] The goal was a system that could transmit tactical orders one-way to U.S. nuclear submarines anywhere in the world, and survive a direct nuclear attack.[2]

Project Sanguine - Wikipedia

 

I was watching a radio dude explain Project ELF on lunch break but didn't get to finish it.

 

Pieces of the ship according to a family member.