The Durham Hearings - Dems demolish Durham

SMH. Process crimes. Do you know what those are? Those are crimes committed during the investigation, i.e. the “process”, and are not crimes for which the investigation was created. Basically lying. Which, apparently is a hell of a lot more serious than not reporting and paying taxes on $3 million worth of foreign income, or lying on a federal gun form to get a gun you are prohibited from possessing. Try harder.

 

No, John Adams is the likely reason that you exist today. Be grateful.

 

Why not both?

 

I view MAGA movement as a sort of last gasp of Southern Strategy politics. The 1/6 was the desperate last hail mary by the most misguided fools who showed up on the ground and thought they could “do something”.

Ultimately, I believe it is doomed in this country given the overwhelming demographics against it. Quite literally, it’s going to die off in the next 5-10 years and the GOP will be forced to change its tact. Should an actual extra-legal fascist movement rise up and hold power (let’s say 1/6 was successful) there’s only one way to put that back down.

 

Is he his great great great grandfather or something?

 

If you’re going to use the word fascist to describe people that went to the capital on January 6, then you need to call Websters so they can re-defined the term to fit your warped narrative. Just another baseless attack on people you don’t agree with. So weak, so predictable.

 

Sure was a lot of lying and obstructing going on wrt to the investigations into Trump campaign and Russia. I wonder why that is.

 

Once again, a thread that depicts the same thing. A select handful of dems, 8-10 chronic posters on THFSG, preaching the Democrat gospel!! I used to think that reading these threads would give you a realistic prospective of the thoughts of the general population, but once again it fails to deliver. I now know that what THFSG mostly gives, is what the extremes from what both sides think and nowhere near what 60-70% of the population actually thinks. It's sad that any sources cited are generally viewed by most of the population as mostly biased. Ok now produce the graph that shows how biased a source is from a biased source that produced the graph. Keep living in the world that if you don't agree with you, you must be a bigot, racist, homophobe, etc.... and the rest of us are going to move on to try and make this country better with our actions. Just for a minute think about the fact that many of you condemn anyone that say make America great again, yet bitch about what shithole country we live in. You can want this country to be great again and not be insert stupid Trump based name. Do many of you actually interact with more than about the 2-3 friends you have that think the same as you? Have any of you actually thought that you may be wrong in your assessment of what's going on? You realize that over 150 million people probably disagree with you, and they could be right?

 

Mike Flynn, the national security advisor, was in fact a paid agent of foreign governments while serving in the Trump campaign and entering into that administration. I’d call that a bit worse than a mere “process crime”. Fundamentally, if not legally, the man is a traitor considering the oath he took.

Manafort just seems like a political slimeball. But considering which side of the ledger his “slime” was on, a direct advisor to a pro-Putin foreign dictator, just dismissing this as a “process crime” is underselling by a factor of 100,0000,000. Again, apparently it’s completely legal for Americans to give advice or be on the payroll of foreign dictators (maybe something we ought to reconsider). But when the evidence points to some ongoing entanglements with his benefactors while involved in a U.S. election, you’ll have to forgive that some of us see “traitor” more than “process crimes”.

 

60-70% of the population (probably more tbh) doesn't give a shit about any of this one way or the other. If you even know who Durham is, you are basically a weirdo.

 

Interestingly, John Adams as the first defeated incumbent president set the norm of accepting the results of an election that he lost and acceding to the peaceful transition of power, the accepted norm for 220 years until a certain narcissist with an orange complexion refused to do so and tried to remain in office by fomenting a fortunately failed coup d'état.

 

I had to reply!!! I think we actually agree about something!!!!

 

It makes more sense when you understand those people saw Trump as “the government”. Neither the election nor the process Congress was undertaking mattered to them. They were there fighting the reality their “government” provided, and by that i mean the alternate reality that Trump and his pals on far right social media (Bannon, Stone, Jones) cooked up for them. That’s exactly how you end up with thousands of nutjobs chanting “fight for Trump”, accusing law enforcing holding them back as being “traitors”, and ludicrously even threatening to hang VP Pence for not following the whims of their lord-god.

 

False dichotomy.

Adams did many great things and was a critical historical figure.

That doesn't mean he was magnanimous, saw the best in people, or was quick to bury the hatchet. Adams wrote, for example, that George Washington was "too illiterate, unlearned, unread for his station." Adams' grudges and insults were legendary, and Adams even described himself as "obnoxious." He had a reputation for being emotional and feisty. He did work to repair his relationship with Jefferson in later years before they died on the same day.

Adams was complicated. I just found it funny that you cited him of all Americans as the pinnacle of the sort of etiquette and civility we should strive towards.

 

You have to understand that there are several real geniuses posting on this board. They not only know more than the rest of us minions, but they also know what we think even before we think it!!

 

Durham seems to have angered both sides, and I might typically view that as a sign maybe he did his job neutrally and responsibly. But the short clips I saw of his testimony were surprisingly bad.

 

Flynn was a patriot and gave his whole adult life in service of this Country? What are your accomplishments? He EARNED a bronze star, and you’re lucky if you got a gold star in second grade. He pled guilty to “lying” after he was entrapped by the FBI because the FBI would have (and nearly did) bankrupt him. He worked for a company owned by a Turkish/American. He wasn’t charged or convicted of any crime involving this. But in your eyes he is a traitor. Once again, include that in your petition to Webster to change the common definition.

 

What exactly is the initiative on the “right” to take away voting of anyone. Should I put on a tinfoil hat to read your response?