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Racial Lies and the Liberals Who Tell Them

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by flgator2, Jun 20, 2023.

  1. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    You’re full of sheet. You enjoy making stuff up.
     
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  2. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    Lots of words get thrown around way too often here and elsewhere: Racist, bigot, hate, derangement ...
     
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  3. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    I like the new and improved River.
     
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  4. swampbabe

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    I agree but sometimes there are posts that are beyond the pale. IMO, some are an embarrassment to Gator Country as a whole.

    My point being that if you post things that push the envelope, then don’t be surprised with the pushback.
     
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  5. Orange_and_Bluke

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  6. flgator2

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    What have I posted that is racist?
     
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  7. mrhansduck

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    This could probably be it's own thread, but I'll put it here because I think it's relevant as Obama echoes some of the sentiments raised in the original article that was posted.

    Obama recently did a podcast with Axelrod. After speaking about the importance of recognizing the history or race relations and how we got here, he also noted that the left often comes down on well-intentioned people too quickly for using the wrong language or bringing up the wrong issue.

    I have always thought Obama balances these concepts well. Some on the far left thought he was too meek while many on the right called him a militant racist who hates White people. At the least, he is asking his own side to be more patient with people and not to assume the worst about their intentions and motives. I don't think I've heard that sort of nuance from recent GOP leaders.

    This is a little long, but I've cut it down to a portion of one paragraph:

    https://www.cnn.com/audio/static/tr...ck-obama.7ae8a979591dd24bc279159c949dc6e6.pdf


    Now, what is true is I think that we have tended at times on the progressive side to tip into kind of a scolding, social etiquette police and virtue signaling whereby somebody doesn't say something exactly the right way, even if, you know, we all know they kind of didn't mean it in an offensive way. And suddenly you've got, partly because of social media, everybody jumping on them and saying somehow, oh, you must be racist or sexist. I think there have been times where reporters are asking questions that don't fit the accepted narrative
    or are inconvenient for progressives around certain issues. And just by raising the question or pointing out facts that don't fit the neat narrative, we'll jump on them and say, you know, why are you, you know, aiding those who are attacking us? And I do think it is important for us to not fall into that trap in which our knee jerk assumption is if somebody doesn't say something the exact right way, that we not only think it's our job to correct them and and scold them, but we are making a judgment about their character and their intentions. And I think that does make people feel under assault. And I think it alienates us from our allies. You know, Michelle and I, we talk about how, you know, if your grandma hears a Spanish word, you know, she may not be able to pronounce it exactly right. She may use the wrong word sometimes. That doesn't mean she's not, she she means, has bad intentions. It just means this is a foreign language to her. She's got to adapt to a new world. And the question is, what's in her heart? You know, how does she feel about treating people fairly? And I think what's true for your grandparents or your uncle or somebody who you know and you love that you think are good people. I, I look, you remember in the speech I gave in the aftermath of Jeremiah Wright, I talked about my grandmother who loved me to death and did everything for me. And I heard her say some ignorant stuff. And I might have to say, Grandma, you know, that's not actually how we, you know, say stuff these days, but you do it with love, and you don't suddenly suggest somehow that, oh, she's a horrible person because of it. Well, if that's how we're treating our family members, then maybe we might want to extend at least a portion of those better assumptions towards our fellow citizens. And I think if we do a little bit of that, we can stick to our principles in terms of insisting on equity and calling out injustice. But we do it in a way that is trying to bring people in rather than automatically pushing them away. And that's how you build political power.
     
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  8. slayerxing

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    IDK if you guys actually read the article. I've read it twice - once when it was written and again now.
    I want to be clear, the way that the article is being used by the OP is slightly twisted.
    Yes, democrats should NOT be weaponizing race, and we should NOT be coming down on WELL-INTENTIONED people who maybe aren't as "educated" on race issues as others because you tend to alienate people that way and scare away potential allies. I agree with that 100%.
    What this guy was saying is - hey, stop being such a-holes. Spend more time helping black people, like actually helping, instead of virtue signaling by calling conservatives bad names. That's really what he was saying = DO SOMETHING REAL, STOP ATTACKING PEOPLE ONLINE AND THEN FEELING GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF.

    That being said, he says nothing in here about coming down on people who are not well-intentioned. And there are some people who post here that are not particularly well-intentioned when it comes to race. Especially when discussing race re: people coming across the southern border, among other things.
     
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  9. magnetofsnatch

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    Aren’t you presumed racist by the left on this site if you are born white? And God forbid you are a male on top of that. You are definitely in the klan unless you post only LGBTQIAJHGDRT+*+[={* articles and belittle anyone who votes Republican. That’s Too Hot.
     
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  10. Orange_and_Bluke

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  11. obgator

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    Thoughts and prayers to the straight white males on this forum.
     
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  12. Gator515151

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    I've never had one single problem with what blacks get as long as whites get the same. It is as simple as that.
     
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  13. jhenderson251

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    Gotta love 2 white guys hitting the "Disagree" rating on a post from a Black man about what Black people want to hear from Republicans.

    This place cracks me up sometimes, in a "sad funny" kind of way.
     
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  14. dangolegators

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    Gotta love that this got 2 disagrees from the usual suspects. It's perfect, and makes Murphree's point.
     
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  15. Orange_and_Bluke

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  16. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    Oh boy. So murphree speaks for all blacks now.
    I didn’t see that in the fine print.
     
  17. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Thinks he made a good point and fails again…
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  18. dangolegators

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    Murphree gave us his take, which you disagree with. So why do you figure 80-90% of Black voters vote against Republicans in a typical election?
     
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  19. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Isn’t it possible that the democrats make promises to maintain the black voting block they’ve enjoyed for years.
    It’s also not hard to believe blacks identify more with the liberal message.
    Doesn’t mean the blacks have it right. They have been victimized by the libbie media propaganda.
     
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  20. slayerxing

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    Wow... them black fellas too dumb... liberals took advantage of them.
    LOL
     
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