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Pregnant Woman Shot Dead by Toddler in Ohio

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by BigCypressGator1981, Jun 18, 2023.

  1. BigCypressGator1981

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  2. l_boy

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    “Responsible gun owners….”

    We need more good toddlers with guns to counteract the bad toddlers with guns.
     
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  3. cocodrilo

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    I assume the toddler won't be tried as an adult. But if there's a man of the house, he could be in trouble about the gun.
     
  4. GatorJMDZ

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    The two year old won't be prosecuted period, incapable of forming criminal intent. I can't believe that child is going to have to live the rest of his life with the knowledge he killed his mother. The gun owner should get the full monty.

    This is so incredibly tragic.
     
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  5. jjgator55

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    So good of the mother and fetus to sacrifice their lives in the name of the 2nd Amendment and irresponsible gun ownership.
     
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  6. tilly

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    A well regulated militia has to start young.
     
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  7. Gator515151

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    I had a cousin who shot and killed his wife in the 90s and shot and killed himself cleaning his gun in 2004. Both were ruled accidental but you have to wonder considering he was highly trained in handling firearms. He was an Airborne Ranger in the service and a Police officer later in life, he was also a heavy drinker which makes me wonder.....Anyway I often wonder what his daughters went through.
     
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  8. BigCypressGator1981

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    Good lord.
     
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  9. homer

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    Need more red flag laws that start at age one.
     
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  10. Sohogator

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    The kid is still kicking it so no T&Ps needed.
     
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  11. GatorJMDZ

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    Wow.

    Let's not forget former FSU DB Lee Paige who later became a DEA agent accidentally shooting himself in the leg lecturing to school kids about gun safety. “I'm the only one in this room professional enough, that I know of, to carry this Glock 40,” then proceeding to shoot himself in the leg."

    He then sued the DEA claiming that the release of the video made him the "laughingstock of the internet." A federal district court judge dismissed the case and the circuit court of appeals affirmed the dismissal 3-0.

    "A federal agent who was shown in a widely distributed video accidentally shooting himself while lecturing children on gun safety lost his lawsuit on Tuesday over release of the video.

    "Lee Paige sued his employer, the Drug Enforcement Administration, after the four-minute video of the 2004 incident in Florida appeared in the news and went viral on the Internet. The video, which is still available online, shows Mr. Paige telling about 50 children and their parents, “I'm the only one in this room professional enough, that I know of, to carry this Glock 40,” then proceeding to shoot himself in the leg."

    "On Tuesday, a three-judge panel of the District of Columbia U.S. Court of Appeals upheld the dismissal. The appellate court said in its ruling that the video contained no “private facts,” the accidental discharge of the gun occurred in a public place, “and Paige knew he was being video-recorded.”

    OFF BEAT: DEA agent loses appeal over video of accidental shooting - Business Insurance

    Here's he is in action:

     
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  12. philnotfil

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    If she had shot first she could still be alive.
     
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  13. AndyGator

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    Staying non-political, how very sad for the family.
     
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  14. rivergator

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    First question: how do they know the child did it?
     
  15. PITBOSS

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    that video is bizarre. Dude emphatically states he’s the only one there who can handle the Glock…….BLAM! shoot’s himself in the leg. Then at the :50 mark looks at his leg and snaps he fingers like “darn it!“. Proceeds to limp around continuing the lecture and ask for another gun. It’s like a snl skit.
     
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  16. uftaipan

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    Was that the famous case where the Court ruled that since the plaintiff held a degree from FSU, the DEA cannot be held responsible for making him a laughingstock as it was a pre-existing condition?
     
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  17. PITBOSS

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    awful. I anticipate most here have antidotal examples of accidental shootings and near misses (hopefully nothing this tragic).
     
  18. BigCypressGator1981

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    only two home behind a locked door and she was shot in the back.
     
  19. BigCypressGator1981

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    Would be a great cover for a murder though.
     
  20. Gator515151

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    In my cousins 2 "accidents" there are reasons they were both ruled as accidental deaths but still quite questionable that it would happen twice to someone trained to handle guns.
    In the case of his wife, he was still a LEO and came home from work. The story was she was drinking and they got into an argument. She grabbed his service revolver and pointed it at his head. He slapped it out of her hands and it went off...... The bullet struck her in the head and the gun blast blew out his ear drum, I guess from the powder burns on his right hand and the fact that the gun went off next to his left ear they determined it wasn't intentional. He was found innocent of any wrongdoing but lost his job as a LEO. His own death was ruled an accident because the gunshot didn't directly kill him. He shot himself in the stomach cleaning his gun and died while recovering in the hospital. He was recovering when one night he vomited in the breathing tube which was the cause of death.