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Is Idaho going to get bigger?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by archigator_96, Jun 14, 2023.

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  1. Jun 14, 2023 #1
    archigator_96

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    Oregon Republicans continue push to break away from state to join Idaho | Washington Examiner

    Hadn't seen this here. Quite a few of the eastern counties in Oregon have voted to leave and become part of Idaho. Kind of the lines of people wanting California to become two states but this seems more reasonable.

    Idaho seems in favor of it, conservatives in Oregon are in favor of it, but democrats in Ore. are not. Wonder why would they care if a bunch of republican counties went to another republican state. They are already a solid democrat state so not sure what the big deal is. Idaho doesn't get anymore senators and maybe they gain a representative or two at the federal level. Just not that many people in eastern Oregon to move the needle much.
     
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    OklahomaGator

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    I don't believe the Constitution allows for that.
     
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    jjgator55

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    I wouldn’t have a problem giving Matt Gaetz district to Alabama.
     
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  4. Jun 14, 2023 #4
    enviroGator

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    I think you answered your own question. But not only does Idaho maybe gain, but Oregon may lose some representation in the House.

    Seems like a pretty big deal in the current dead heat we have in politics.
     
  5. Jun 14, 2023 #5
    philnotfil

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    Eastern Washington and Oregon are much more like Idaho than they are like the western parts of their states.
     
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    oragator1

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    It’s been posted before but not recently.
    It won’t get anywhere any time soon. It can’t get past the Oregon legislature or the us senate likely.
     
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    wgbgator

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    That's gonna be a big Ida-no
     
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    buckeyegator

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    we have some of that here in alachua county where population west of gainesville wants to form it's own county to get away from the puppet county commision ruled by the gainesville city commision.
     
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  9. Jun 14, 2023 #9
    tampagtr

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    Relatedly, this was a great book and the states.PNG few episodes of the show I watched were good
     
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  11. Jun 14, 2023 #11
    archigator_96

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    Why wouldn't it? If both states legislatures approve it. I understand why those in Oregon are for it. Nobody likes having 1 city make the rules for everyone else. Ask anyone who lives in New York that is not in NYC.

    Now creating a new state out of whole cloth from a portion of another state I get would be very difficult.
     
  12. Jun 14, 2023 #12
    tampagtr

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    Still think Congress would have to agree. Not exactly the situation, but Art IV, Clause 3. I appreciate it is not a new state, but pretty clear not only here but everywhere that Congress has to approve of anything with states and boundaries, especially because federal land is also undoubtedly included and/or impacted


    New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

    The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.
     
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    docspor

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    Boise is almost the same % of state pop that Portland is
     
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  14. Jun 14, 2023 #14
    tampagtr

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    Meanwhile, in Idaho



    From the linked story


    RATHDRUM, Idaho - Tilly, the 2-year-old Border Collie who was ejected from a car Sunday during a crash, has been found.

    He was found on a sheep farm, where he had apparently taken up the role of sheep herder.

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    If I'm understanding correctly, not sure why it's surprising that Democrats in Oregon don't want to suddenly become residents of one of the most conservative states in the country.
     
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    archigator_96

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    Makes sense. Probably stemming from the days when states argued over where the line should be. I think even Ohio and Michigan had some violent skirmishes over the issue around the border. That show you quoted is very interesting.
     
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    docspor

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    Jesus, members of the party of UNlimited BIG GOV & very limited personal responsibility caint show a smidge of initiative & move? Welfare snow flakes
     
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  18. Jun 14, 2023 #18
    archigator_96

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    It's the opposite, the counties that want to become part of Idaho are 90% + republican. They are all the eastern counties which is pretty much all agricultural and not a lot of population. The Democrats own the pacific coast and that's where the large cities are. Eugene and Portland. Maybe the people in the eastern part just want to pump their own gas.

    Washington state has a similar situation but aren't clamoring to leave.
     
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    mrhansduck

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    tampagtr

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    Yes it is.

    In terms of border skirmishes between the states

    Tennessee–Georgia water dispute - Wikipedia
     
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