Lock him up! CNN reports Trump to be indicted

Assuming the Indictment's allegations are accurate, Trumps only chances of winning are if potential jurors lie during voir dire or the judge goes rogue.

 

The problem with ignoring such people is that it allows us to forget how sick some people are and the threat they pose to the republic. No, let them rant.

 

You can.

 

They can just OJ it, and give a verdict against the DOJ as opposed to one in favor of Trump.

 

No - that’s not my assertion. DOJ (and agencies like FBI within) have proven themselves to be highly partisan.

No one has seen the evidence as it’s classified. There are claims by the DOJ and they may have merit. May have. But, to deny that there could be a partisan bent toward this case - and not hold the DOJ up to appropriate standards - is just silly.

 

Because you and others really really really want it to. The alternative, once again, is having to admit to yourselves that you have (or at least did) put your faith in a conman who would sell out you, his children, and his country for enough money or a nice ego stroke.

 

If it helps, you can imagine the "come on man" emoji is the guy trying to hold back his vomit.

 

Or maybe, all sorts of institutions have been out to get him for seven years, in such perfect fashion it almost seems coordinated and we have simply had enough.

One or two things might be a coincidence. Seven years of this bullshit, not indicting Clinton, using false Clinton information to launch an investigation on Trump, 2020 election procedures, announcing the vaccines after the 2020 election, indicting Trump in New York brought by a prosecutor who campaigned on prosecuting him, his arch political rival's Justice Department indicts him just as his Presidential campaign is heating up and just as scandalous reports are released about the Biden family potentially taking bribes... and for retaining classified documents which is something Biden himself is guilty of and the DOJ in 2016 chose NOT to indict to indict Hillary for.

One of these things is a chance, two may be random, three coincidence... but all of them combined, Hell you don't even need ALL OF THEM per se, that's a coordinated attack to bring this guy down. Whatever it takes.

 

Smith has seen the evidence. He put a lot of it in the indictment. Then released the indictment to the public. He must feel supremely confident he can prove it all in a court of law to do that.

 

What was your favorite part? The part where he lied to his lawyers? The recording where Trump said he knew the docs were still classified by was showing them to someone without clearance anyway? Or maybe it was the pictures of boxes containing highly classified docs on a MAR stage? Bathroom? Spilled in a closet?

 

This is 100% accurate. They cannot even imagine they have been grifted for 7 years. You can see the writing on the wall though. Some of them are waffling already. Totally conned over and over. Sticking up for someone so horrible. Stop being a victim and take back your party.

 

You have to be joking. Gotta be, right?

 

This about sums it up

 

I tend to agree with that line of thinking, but Smith has been overzealous before.

 

This is actually reminiscent of the OJ trial. When a grouping of people are so blindly biased no way they find guilt. Trump followers are so politically biased they 100% will claim he’s innocent regardless what the evidence shows.

Of course later, just like oj, many realized they were wrong.

“Lawyers strive for fairness and justice in every case they handle. However, the behavioral science research shows that human reasoning in legal contexts is inherently flawed and vulnerable to both explicit and implicit biases. Cognitive biases, as they are known, can significantly impact legal matters such as employment law, jury selection, public procurement, criminal defense, business decision-making, bankruptcy, and police misconduct.

It is therefore crucial for legal professionals to understand and address these biases in order to ensure the integrity of the legal process.”


https://www.forbes.com/sites/glebts...biases-leads-to-a-more-just-legal-system/amp/

 

That's pure hyperbole. Bias is unavoidable in the affairs of mankind, but to accuse the widely admired and respected DOJ as "highly partisan" is just ridiculous.

DOJ has, and it sets it forth in great detail in the indictment. Are you suggesting the indictment is bogus, that there's no factual basis for it?

Where have I or anyone else done that? I expect the DOJ lawyers to play by the rules and remain professional throughout. Rather than being thoroughly immature and chanting "lock him up", I'm content to let the evidence be presented and the jury to decide.

 

The grand jury saw the evidence.

We see the obstruction and conspiracy evidence from the indictment.

Just stop.

 

It’s mentioned all over the place. It’s one of the biggest talking points of the case.

 

The opportunity to return the documents was at the point of the NARA request, and then the subpoena and the followup to it.

I don’t know that there’s a terribly compelling argument, after they’ve given him multiple private opportunities to return the documents, they should just forgive and forget that he responded by lying about even having the documents in the first place and asked his lawyers why they couldn’t just falsely claim to have destroyed them.

Having the documents in the first place, while technically a crime, is one that almost certainly wouldn’t have been prosecuted had he just given them back. But when his response was to instead commit a bunch more crimes to try to hide them, at some point the “just give them back please and this all goes away” option basically has to disappear.

 

Or, as the indictment alleges, TOLD PEOPLE THE DOCUMENTS WERE CLASSIFIED!!!